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re: 104.5 Charles Hannigriff had the best critique of Bama's ratings

Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:44 pm to
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They can make the playoffs even with a 2nd loss to LSU. Don't u see this sets them up to make it to the play offs as a 2 loss team. That is the worst part of this scenario - Wake up people!

If you believe this you and Haydel could be good friends.

There is absolutely ZERO chance that Alabama makes the playoffs if they lose a second game to LSU. No chance. None at all.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:45 pm to
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It is supposed to be who is the best four college football teams in the country.


So it sounds to me like what you're saying is records shouldn't count. bama can lose a couple of games but should be able to jump an undefeated Iowa or TCU or Baylor.

I think we can all agree that bama has better talent than the three teams I mentioned earlier. So am I correct in assuming that you believe a one or two loss alabama should be chosen before a team like TCU that has a better record?

Bama does have higher ranked recruiting classes then those other teams. And in that line of thinking, why play the regular season games? Next year bama will still more then likely have one of the top 4 talent rich programs in the country, so we should just pencil them in for the playoffs. Correct?

They have saban who 99% percent of the country's football fans seem to believe is the best coach in the game, all those 4 and 5 star recruits stockpiled, one of the top programs in college football year after year, case closed I guess.


Posted by Celjun
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:48 pm to
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There is absolutely ZERO chance that Alabama makes the playoffs if they lose a second game to LSU. No chance. None at all


I have heard at least 2 analysts saying, that given the right circumstances that a 2 loss Bama could still make the play offs with a close loss to LSU and they run the table till the end of the season.
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
5294 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:48 pm to
I can't help you if you think that's what I said. If Bama loses another game they have no chance at the playoffs. I don't know why you would think a 10-2 Bama is a better college football team than a 12-0 TCU.

But right now, today, at this point in the season, Alabama is better than those teams.
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
5294 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:50 pm to
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have heard at least 2 analysts saying, that given the right circumstances that a 2 loss Bama could still make the play offs with a close loss to LSU and they run the table till the end of the season.

And you believe everything that comes out of ESPN analysts I guess? Bama has no chance losing a second game. If they lose again they won't even play for the SEC Championship.

Maybe if somehow every other team in the country lost multiple games they would make it.
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:52 pm to
While I agree the #4 rating for Ala. is too high... I mean really, what diff does it make, at this point? And frankly, it helps LSU. If Ala. loses this weekend, they're done. Two losses. See ya. If they win, LSU will have one loss, and, if they win out, might have a decent chance of getting into the 4-team playoff field (there only loss being to Ala.) Am I missing something?
Posted by Celjun
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2007
2613 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:54 pm to
No, I never said I believe them but they help this scenario play out if it comes down to the wire just like they did in 2011. The Mulligan was set up by the talking heads on TV and Radio and all those unbeaten teams that decided to lose on the last game of the season.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22447 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:55 pm to
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quote:In Bama's loss, they get a pass for having 5 turnovers That's all you've been hearing on national outlets. "If it wasn't for those turnovers." It's almost maddening.


Generally, your opponent has something to do with 5 turnovers, unless you have Paul Crewe for your QB.
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
5294 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:00 pm to
Alabama should have played in the National Championship game after Oklahoma State lost to Iowa State. Name a team that was more deserving.


Put your tin foil hat back on.
Posted by Celjun
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2007
2613 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:02 pm to
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Alabama should not have played in the National Championship game after Oklahoma State lost to Iowa State because they never played or won the SEC


FIFY asshat!
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:05 pm to
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Alabama should have played in the National Championship game after Oklahoma State lost to Iowa State. Name a team that was more deserving.


Oklahoma State was more deserving, they played a game, in November, where the conference championship was on the line, and won. Bama lost their November game with the division on the line. Bama got in the game because the perception was LSU and Bama were the 2 best teams. In what other sport does the loser of a game get a bye straight to the finals?
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 4:16 pm
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:14 pm to
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I don't know why you would think a 10-2 Bama is a better college football team than a 12-0 TCU.


I didn't say that. You basically said that when you said the goal was to put the four BEST teams in the playoffs.

I think what happens during the season (wins and losses) should be what determines which teams are chosen for the playoffs. Kinda like what happened in 2011, Oklahoma State finishes their regular season with one loss and is the Big 12 champion, bama finishes with one loss, doesn't even win their division in the SEC, yet jumped the Cowboys in the final rankings. The NCAA use to use the motto of "every game counts", didn't seem to work out that way in 2011.

Oklahoma State should have played in the title game that year. This is just my opinion of course and I know not everyone agrees with it.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 4:18 pm
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
5294 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:14 pm to
Oklahoma State lost to an unranked Iowa state team that lost 7 games in 2011. And the conference championships are in December, not November.

Alabama lost by 3 to arguably one of the best teams in the history of college football in the regular season.

Alabama deserved to be in. There is no debate. The BCS rankings got the rankings correct. LSU and Alabama were the best two teams in the country that year by a wide wide margin. Again, there is no debating it.
Posted by PrideofTheSEC
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
5225 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:18 pm to
No one ever mentions eithereither that ole miss would've won by more. Bama was lucky to recover an onside kick
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:21 pm to
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And the conference championships are in December, not November.


true, Ok State did win it's key game on Dec 3rd.

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Alabama deserved to be in


No they didn't, they lost a home game where everything should have been on the line. College Football has been great because those games were de facto playoff games. The outcome of that game was rendered moot.

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LSU and Alabama were the best two teams in the country that year by a wide wide margin. Again, there is no debating it.


that is true, but assuming this is the formula who should Alabama have played after the '12 season since any number of teams were better than Notre Dame?
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
5294 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:24 pm to
So if every game matters do you ever factor in losing a game to a team that lost 7 other games in 2011?

If every game matters, Bama loss is significantly "more impressive" than Oklahoma States loss.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
18878 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:25 pm to
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While I agree the #4 rating for Ala. is too high... I mean really, what diff does it make, at this point? And frankly, it helps LSU. If Ala. loses this weekend, they're done. Two losses. See ya. If they win, LSU will have one loss, and, if they win out, might have a decent chance of getting into the 4-team playoff field (there only loss being to Ala.) Am I missing something?
Agreed. There's silver lining and if we stumble an opportunity here as LSU fans/team. Not so much Ole Miss.

Don't forget, TCU/OkSU/Baylor (don't forget OU) all will be playing. Big XII COULD wipe itself out with 1 or 2 losses to each. Same thing we and the SEC deal with on occasion.

Hell, we could be potentially be hearing from Bama fans "So we're ranked #1 and we have to play LSU again? They didn't even win their division!". I hope not, but hey... it's possible.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:27 pm to
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LSU and Alabama were the two best teams in the country that year by a wide margin.


First of all, I never once said anything about what month the conference championships games were played in.

My point is that I BELIEVED that the teams that advanced to the title games during the BCS era should have been conference champions.

Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
5294 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:29 pm to
You aren't very good at this. I wasn't responding to you. You can clearly see that where it says "posted to".
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:34 pm to
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You aren't very good at this. I wasn't responding to you. You can clearly see that where it says "posted to"


Yeah, you're right, I'm not very good at this. My mistake, I'm sorry. I'm a diabetic and my blood sugars are starting to get low, time to go I guess. Sorry for the confusion.
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