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re: Updated ESPN Rankings

Posted on 1/8/09 at 3:57 pm to
Posted by cdiddy71323
Dallas
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/8/09 at 3:57 pm to
Who picks out the teams in the Army/UA games?
Posted by Luke4LSU
Member since Oct 2007
11986 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

INT's can happen for alot of reasons besides a QB's decision making and accuracy.


Yet JL got thrown under the bus this year because of not only his numerous INTs, but due to the fact that an inordinate number of them turned out to be pick-6's (as if that has anything to do with JL).

Interesting double standard.

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Unless close to every game the guy played, you saying he shouldn't be ranked #1 because of stats is just as incorrect as evaluating on one game.


I'm not saying he's not a beast. I'm saying it's BS that he dropped after a sub-par season, but then they use ONE FAKE GAME as an excuse to elevate him to the top spot.

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A mediocre player is way less likely to step up on that All Star game, national TV stage and show what Barkley did.


I don't see why you would say that. I was mediocre in basketball in grade school (averaged ~8 pts/gaem) and just so happened to tear it up in the all-star game (22 pts).

Just saying, good players can have great games and shitty games. That's why I'm looking at a season instead of an allstar game.

Just IMO.
This post was edited on 1/8/09 at 4:01 pm
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61874 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 3:59 pm to
The only way someone could watch the games this weekend and think that Shep is the best player in the nation is if they are just flat out biased. 3 is still a little high imo.
Posted by Ceasarfor3!
MS
Member since Feb 2005
798 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 4:00 pm to
More on Downs moving Up...He's their #4 DT. I.E. we have 2 top 10 DT committed.
Posted by Luke4LSU
Member since Oct 2007
11986 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 4:00 pm to
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This is a huge understatement.


OK then.

He can throw the foosball real, real, REAL far.

Happy Gilmore could hit the ball real far too. That didn't make him much of a putter, if you know what I'm saying.
Posted by OhFace55
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
7069 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 4:00 pm to
Well hell since senior stats matter so much lets sign this guy. Look at those stats he has to be better than JJ
Posted by cdiddy71323
Dallas
Member since Nov 2005
1877 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 4:00 pm to
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The only way someone could watch the games this weekend and think that Shep is the best player in the nation is if they are just flat out biased


Like I mentioned earlier, it seemed Barkley's line was light years ahead of the other teams. Every snap, Sheppard was off running right at the bat because someone was in the backfield. Barkley would have all day to throw the ball and still made bad decisions
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
38482 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 4:02 pm to
Barkley reminds me of Stafford. You watch him throw the ball and it's mind boggling, then he gets in the game, makes some amazing throws and other than you just stratch your head over.

Luckily he'll be on the bench for 3 years anyway so he has plenty of time to improve his decision making
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35494 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 4:02 pm to
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Randle drops from 6 to 10


Does that mean he's not going to bama or is it only rivals that downgrades players not going to bama.

Downs looked awesome at the UAAA game. :beast:
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61874 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 4:02 pm to
I didn't say Barkley was the best player. Bryce Brown is imo.
Posted by Luke4LSU
Member since Oct 2007
11986 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 4:02 pm to
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The only way someone could watch the games this weekend and think that Shep is the best player in the nation is if they are just flat out biased. 3 is still a little high imo.


The only way anyone should move anywhere based on an all-star game with all kinds of BS rules and a week to practice is if they just do some unreal stuff that makes you go "Damn!".

The ONLY people I saw do that were Craig Loston and Eric Reid.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
38482 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 4:03 pm to
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I didn't say Barkley was the best player. Bryce Brown is imo.


If Kennard wasn't injured, I bet a lot of services would have him #1 right now. Brown is a beast too though
Posted by cdiddy71323
Dallas
Member since Nov 2005
1877 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 4:03 pm to
Finally, an analysis from a USC fan, thank you. Why do you say he is going to sit on the bench for THREE years? I guess I'm missing something because Sanchez is going to be a senior along with Mustain
Posted by Luke4LSU
Member since Oct 2007
11986 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 4:03 pm to
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Well hell since senior stats matter so much lets sign this guy. Look at those stats he has to be better than JJ


Quit harping on ONE of my points and try to absorb the others.
Posted by Luke4LSU
Member since Oct 2007
11986 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Barkley reminds me of Stafford. You watch him throw the ball and it's mind boggling, then he gets in the game, makes some amazing throws and other than you just stratch your head over.


Excellent comparison, IMO.

I think Stafford is getting way too much NFL cred based on his arm and way too little criticism for some poor decisions that he's made throughout his career.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
38482 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 4:05 pm to
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Finally, an analysis from a USC fan, thank you. Why do you say he is going to sit on the bench for THREE years? I guess I'm missing something because Sanchez is going to be a senior along with Mustain


Aaron Corp is a redshirt freshman and is the backup ahead of Mustain right now. Barkley will redshirt, sit for two more years and start as a junior.
Posted by cdiddy71323
Dallas
Member since Nov 2005
1877 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 4:06 pm to
Okay, thank you, forgot about Corp. You don't think Barkley can pass up Corp after he redshirts since Sanchez will start one more year?
Posted by #1lsufan
South LA
Member since Jan 2004
1884 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 4:07 pm to
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barkley deserves that top spot

After watching the game he deserves the top spot. RR's ranking might be right.

Other LSU rankings seem a little low. However it's on the field where it counts.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61874 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

The only way anyone should move anywhere based on an all-star game with all kinds of BS rules and a week to practice is if they just do some unreal stuff that makes you go "Damn!".

The ONLY people I saw do that were Craig Loston and Eric Reid.


3 touchdowns, would've been 5 if his quarterbacks could get him the ball, and Brown didn't make you say "Damn!"?????
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
38482 posts
Posted on 1/8/09 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

Okay, thank you, forgot about Corp. You don't think Barkley can pass up Corp after he redshirts since Sanchez will start one more year?


Doubt it. Carroll normally isn't wedded to the older guy except at QB, where he almost always starts the older player. He loves Corp also, so it seems highly unlikely
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