The real reason LSU is on a slide.

Wow. That's telling.

To be fair, most of the players who have left the team were not leaders.

Also, Jean-Francois and Beckwith contributed and left due to graduation or early entry.

The only guy I can think of who was in a leadership role was Perrilloux.

To illustrate the point, here are the other players we lost:

2005
FB Steven Korte
OT Kyle Anderson
S Antonio Robinson

Really...who cares about those guys? Nobody.

2006
WR Jared Mitchell
WR Ricky Dixon
TE JD Lott
OT Phil Loadholt
OT Zhamal Thomas
OT Mark Snyder
OG Matt Allen
OG Steven Singleton
DT Charles Deas
OLB Derrick Odom
S Troy Giddens
CB Jason Teague

A couple of guys stand out here. Obviously, losing Loadholt hurt a little bit, but he'd be gone by now anyways. Losing Zhamal Thomas hurt a bit because he, of any of the olinemen in the class, showed a lot of promise. The other olinemen were so-so.

Losing Deas was a blessing in disguise. Derrick Odom still would not be starting over Cutrera and the Georgia boys. Troy Giddens would never start. Jason Teague probably wouldn't be starting over Eugene or Hawkins.

So really, when you look at the players we lost, it boils down to one or two guys we really miss, and the only really important player was Perrilloux.

there are four lineman in that class. They might not have developed but we were horrible there this especially at guard so signing guys and not having them grow into being a player is a big thing.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong about these comments:

2006
WR Jared Mitchell - left early for baseball
WR Ricky Dixon - transferred for lack of playing time (and rightly so)
TE JD Lott - transferred for lack of playing time (and rightly so)
OT Phil Loadholt - never made it to campus due to grades
OT Zhamal Thomas - kicked off for behavior
OT Mark Snyder - career ending injury
OG Matt Allen - transfered due to lack of playing time (I do think we miss him)
OG Steven Singleton - transferred (I'm not sure why)
DT Charles Deas - never made it to campus due to grades
OLB Derrick Odom - kicked off for behavior
S Troy Giddens - kicked off for behavior
CB Jason Teague - never made it to campus due to grades

So, by my reckoning, the only player lost that could have helped is Matt Allen, and he's not starting for TAMU, so how much he could have helped is debatable.

The point is you cant sign four o-lineman in a class and get nothing from them.

I concur.

The point I was trying to make is look how many scholarship were wasted in 05 and 06. You need leadership from your seniors and juniors and we have very few. I agree that only a handful would be contrubuting. But take T-bow off of Florida and your talking about a different team. Not saying anyone was his caliber. But maybe our coaching staff sucks at finding good talent.

I think the bottom line is that 2005 and 2006 simply were not very good classes.

2005 was Miles' first class, and he had to pick up the pieces from Saban's departure. I think he actually did well considering. We got several key contributors from that class including LaFell, Black, Alem, and Hawkins. Of course, Perrilloux was in that class and we all THOUGHT he would be a key pickup.

Parts of the 2006 class were good (HB, TE, LB) but other parts were not as good (WR, DB) while still other parts ending up being just terrible (OL, DL).

Thats what I am hoping for. Hopefully 2007/2008 = 2003/2004

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I am not in any way a Miles lover, but we beat fla, Penn st, and ole miss with a better Qb. I am completely sold on the fact that niether JJ or Lee are the answer. I hope Garrett is farther along than than anyone knows, and hopefully can work his way up. I don't see much different results in the future with our current qbs.

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Chris Garrett is not the permanent answer. I saw him play in high school a few times. he was pretty good there, of course, but i did not see anything too special there. He will be so-so