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re: Tashawn Bower 4* 83rd espn ranking
Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:51 pm to 1 Call
Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:51 pm to 1 Call
Not exactly sure what your point is but this is a message board and I can state my opinion as I so choose as long as it's within the rules of the board. If you don't like it, don't read it. Thank you very much. Money says at most half of these kids play in the NFL much less play at LSU for only 3 years. I evaluate based on reality not some fricking pipe dream that sunshine pumps everyone. You can disagree and many do I'm sure but I'm gonna state my opinion freely whether some like it or not.
Agree Gravitiger about Herron. I don't see him growing to DT and don't think the staff wants him to. I was just going off some past history of guys we have come in at his size. I see a Tyson Jackson type DE with a little less bulk. I'm thinking 270 or so. I think Herron's motor is better than Jackson's though.
Agree Gravitiger about Herron. I don't see him growing to DT and don't think the staff wants him to. I was just going off some past history of guys we have come in at his size. I see a Tyson Jackson type DE with a little less bulk. I'm thinking 270 or so. I think Herron's motor is better than Jackson's though.
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 9:35 pm to 1 Call
Fwiw, lsufanva is one of the better more knowledgeable posters on ANY board, I always pay attention to what he says.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 9:38 pm to phaz
Agreed. Lsufanva is one of the most knowledgeable posters around, particularly when it comes to recruiting
Posted on 12/29/12 at 2:33 am to lsufanva
quote:I think he ends up around 255-260 (~ Edwards/Montomery size). He's maybe 230 right now.
Agree Gravitiger about Herron. I don't see him growing to DT and don't think the staff wants him to. I was just going off some past history of guys we have come in at his size. I see a Tyson Jackson type DE with a little less bulk. I'm thinking 270 or so. I think Herron's motor is better than Jackson's though.
Posted on 12/29/12 at 3:15 am to DallasTiger45
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Just trying to play devil's advocate here-
This would give us 4 ends and 4 tackles, assuming Bain is a silent and Lawson plays DT.
I know we are losing a lot on the line, but 8 guys is a TON. Maybe someone is looking around? I love all our commits BTW, I think guys like Patterson and Neal are steals.
Only 1 DE(Danielle Hunter) and 0 DT's signed in the last class. 8 DL is a good number to bring in for this class.
Posted on 12/29/12 at 6:56 am to 1 Call
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It's really great for LSU that your assessment or evaluation of talent is totally irrelevant! I'm sure you have heard Chavis say or read it somewhere that he recruits guys with NFL potential and possibly only having these guys for 3 years...
You're missing the point of the recruiting board. Plus, it's poor form to call out lsufanva who is one of the most informed and valuable posters around here when you have little to no credibility.
Posted on 12/29/12 at 9:08 am to 1 Call
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Posted on 12/29/12 at 9:39 am to lsufanva
Always enjoy and appreciate your posts Fanva! Also agree with you regarding the d-line. It is a numbers game and you have to figure the law of averages will come into play although LSU may temper that more than some with good evaluations and strong recruiting ability. It is just such a critical area for LSU's brand of football in particular.
Quentin Thomas is one player that I have never seen enough information on to evaluate where we stand as far as the shape of the d-tackles. He seems on paper to have that potential to be that surprise athletically dominant player but there just doesn't seem to be much information out there. From not playing his final year of high school to the lack of information that i see since he has been at LSU he just seems a mystery. Maybe I am missing the obvious and should assume that if there is no news of him excelling that might indicate he is not standing out - just don't know.
Quentin Thomas is one player that I have never seen enough information on to evaluate where we stand as far as the shape of the d-tackles. He seems on paper to have that potential to be that surprise athletically dominant player but there just doesn't seem to be much information out there. From not playing his final year of high school to the lack of information that i see since he has been at LSU he just seems a mystery. Maybe I am missing the obvious and should assume that if there is no news of him excelling that might indicate he is not standing out - just don't know.
Posted on 12/29/12 at 11:03 am to xxGEAUXxx
quote:I keep hearing/reading that if he doesn't stay solid with Auburn, he will sign with Rutgers.
Tashawn Bower 4* 83rd espn ranking
Posted on 12/29/12 at 8:18 pm to 1 Call
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Wow.
Posted on 12/29/12 at 10:31 pm to lsufanva
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When it comes to the lines, both offensive and defensive, you can never have enough bodies. Huge boom or bust rate at those spots. With the way we rotate bodies on the DL, numbers are paramount. Odds are that 3-4 of the 8 would be minimal contributors or non contributors. All comes out in the wash down the line. Also we are getting a mix of guys in this DL group, not those couple of pure stud guys. That doesn't mean our kids aren't good or capable of being outstanding players, just that they fit a particular role or are mostly potential at this point with lots of rough edges.
Neal-much discussed. He's a role player. Designated pass rusher meaning his snaps will be limited.
Herron-could fill many roles. Could grow to DT, could be a run stopping DE or could be that good, all around DE. Has the talent to be very good but he's limited to a point
Patterson-the all upside take. Could be a stud or could be a complete non factor. All depends on how he develops physically and skill wise. Likely a Montgomery type DE on the high end.
Lawson-huge potential. Has all the goods but is a long way from being where we need him to be. Could be next in line as that raw, undeveloped DT that turns stud or could never develop oe end up on the OL. In other words, far from a sure thing
Bain-much like Lawson. Could blossom or be a non factor. Also could end up on the OL. Again far from a sure thing
Gilmore-the safest of the DTs if only because he's for sure a DT. Still a kid that is not exactly a lock to be special. Has some developing to do.
Lacouture-I like the kid but I see him being one of those depth, rotation only type guys. A solid, 10-12 snap guy that is not special but important to the overall scheme of things in a given year.
Agree with most of what you said, but (just my opinion, no expert here):
1) Neal - Disagree. Will play more than you think. He is a player. The type of player that just plays sound, fundamental ball that just always seems to make plays. Long arms and good technique for a high school player.
2) Herron - Disagree. DE only. All this talk of him possibly bulking up to a DT is nonsense (no insult intended, just see this often on this site and others). Kid will push for playing time as a freshman.
3) Lawson - Agree. Huge potential, but major project.
4) Bain - Disagree. Bigtime. Has the most upside and potential of all DT recruits. He is a DT all the way. I wish LSU fans would stop trying to convert every DT recruit into an OL (not you, just see this way to often on this site). He has the size already. He will compete and push for playing time as soon as he gets on campus.
5) Gilmore - Agree.
6) Lacoutture - Major sleeper. After some development, he will be a major player at DT for LSU.
This post was edited on 12/29/12 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 12/29/12 at 10:34 pm to LSUDbrous90
If he shows up; we have a chance
Posted on 12/29/12 at 10:38 pm to thunderbird1100
No doubt the staff has moved on from the guy with the kids trying to run away from his responsibilities. U cant win with these types of guys, Good riddance I think we have a good shot at Bower if he shows up.
We need to dominate Clemson!
We need to dominate Clemson!
Posted on 12/30/12 at 6:55 am to LSUANDY25
rivals.com shows his only two visits as auburn (sep 28. 2012) and lsu (jan 25, 2013). i can't help but think that is a good sign for us, especially with the upheaval going on at auburn since the start of the football year.
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