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re: Seastrunk a RB or WR in college?

Posted on 8/4/09 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by STLSU
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Posted on 8/4/09 at 7:46 pm to
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Seastrunk a RB or WR in college?
Pelini sucked in the game-yes
Flynn did too- yes
Keiland got replaced by Murphy after 1 carry because the ball bounced out after he was down even though the refs ruled him down correctly-yes

But there is still no excuse ever to bench someone that is running like a wild man for the entire 2nd half (save 1 carry). Hester was limping and got 61 yards on 18 carries. No excuse, who cares if they're selling out on the run. No excuse not to give KW zero touches in the 2nd half after he makes the only big play for your team in the 1st half vs Auburn.

Mies gets caught up in not wanting his bench players to outshine his little pets and its detrimental to the team.


yea hester did the job against florida and alabama but not at all against auburn. totally agree about KW in the second half.
Posted by Thoreauxbred
Member since Jul 2009
285 posts
Posted on 8/4/09 at 7:47 pm to
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ridley gets the scott carries (aka most of them)


I'm far from convinced of that

he was 4th string before he blew out his knee ..lets see how fast and durable he is now before you annoint him as the workhorse

he could turn out to be another Ally - a big back who is no factor any more after being slowed by a knee
Posted by ColtsTigers
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/4/09 at 7:49 pm to
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if you're right, then chavis fits PERFECTLY


It fits almost every coach though. How many times have we been scratching our heads at Sean Payton's gameplans, for example? Running Reggie Bush into the line when Pierre Thomas is having much more success.

quote:

uh
ridley gets the scott carries (aka most of them)
murphy gets the keiland carries
ford/lache get the ridley/murphy carries


We will see dude. Saying Lache will get the Murphy carries, then yes, Miles should be shot if that happens. I don't see that happening though. Lache is about two levels of talent ahead of Murphy.
Posted by NewGuy01
Internet
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Posted on 8/4/09 at 7:49 pm to
I would think this thread was a joke in the likes of trindon to pass rushing DE, but everyone seems serious. So let me just make sure we are all clear. Are you really asking if the consensus #1 RB prospect in the country would be better suited playing another position?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/4/09 at 7:50 pm to
4th string...with 2 guys ahead of him leaving this year

ridley got the carries the primary back in our offense gets

murphy's always gotten the carries of the seldom used speed back/backup RB
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14830 posts
Posted on 8/4/09 at 7:52 pm to
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Are you really asking if the consensus #1 RB prospect in the country would be better suited playing another position?


no, its specific to our offense and how he would be/hopefully be used.
Posted by Thoreauxbred
Member since Jul 2009
285 posts
Posted on 8/4/09 at 7:58 pm to
maybe because we haven't had that "speed back" who was worth starting over the guy we had with power

Keiland started the second half of the year as a true frosh... then fumblitis hit and the reliable Hester played (and wound up leading s to a National Title and became a 2nd Round draft pick)

Then Chuck Scott won the job over our speed backs and made All SEC

The best back has always played
This post was edited on 8/4/09 at 7:59 pm
Posted by Charles Bronson
WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/4/09 at 7:59 pm to
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Keiland started the second half of the year as a true frosh... then fumblitis hit and the reliable Hester played (and wound up being a 2nd Round draft pick)

He's never fumbled the ball, Derby.
Posted by Thoreauxbred
Member since Jul 2009
285 posts
Posted on 8/4/09 at 7:59 pm to
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He's never fumbled the ball


you've been to all of the practices?
Posted by Charles Bronson
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/4/09 at 8:00 pm to
We talkin' bout practice, Derby. Practice!?!

Posted by Thoreauxbred
Member since Jul 2009
285 posts
Posted on 8/4/09 at 8:03 pm to
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We talkin' bout practice,


nah, just talkin' bout who could win us a National Title

Hester did that
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81439 posts
Posted on 8/4/09 at 8:04 pm to
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some believe that had Hester not gotten hurt he would have gotten that first down or at least gotten close... an immature Scott ran into the pile with his head down and met the LB directly without trying to misdirect the contact to carry his momentum forward to get the first


i love how you can disect the one bad run Scott had on a short yardage play where Lyle Hitt does a matador then just throw out the window entirely Hester's entire shitty day because of Pelini and Flynn. And of course hester getting 2 yards total on 2nd and 3rd downs of that drive in overtime can be washed away also.
Posted by Charles Bronson
WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/4/09 at 8:04 pm to
I think if Keiland was labeled "the guy" and given the rock 20+ times a game he'd be a special back.

He made the wrong decision in coming to LSU. Heck, to be honest, I don't know why any top back would come to LSU.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81439 posts
Posted on 8/4/09 at 8:05 pm to
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The best back has always played


started, maybe. The hot hand gets benched for pissing off the starter.
Posted by Thoreauxbred
Member since Jul 2009
285 posts
Posted on 8/4/09 at 8:09 pm to
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i love how you can disect the one bad run Scott had on a short yardage play where Lyle Hitt does a matador then just throw out the window entirely Hester's entire shitty day because of Pelini and Flynn.


no different than how you think not playing Scott was the only reason we lost that game

if you are #1 in the country and go to UK and cannot win comfortably with your starting RB in the game (or any RB in the game) then you have many more major issues aside from your backup RB not getting more carries

remember, UK's 3rd string RB ran all over us that day.. the kid's name is Derrick Locke and he's STILL a backup on their depth chart

so don't pin it all on being as easy as Scott playing more... Scott had his chance to prolong the game and didn't get it done
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466236 posts
Posted on 8/4/09 at 8:09 pm to
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nah, just talkin' bout who could win us a National Title

without keiland going bonkers against AU for that TD we don't win shite
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14830 posts
Posted on 8/4/09 at 8:10 pm to
it was an awesome pass recept
Posted by Thoreauxbred
Member since Jul 2009
285 posts
Posted on 8/4/09 at 8:16 pm to
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I think if Keiland was labeled "the guy" and given the rock 20+ times a game he'd be a special back.


maybe the coaches saw what I did - that Keiland shows up some games and doesn't some others. Maybe it's the Vegan in him, who knows...he also shys from contact more than fight for the extra yards


quote:

He made the wrong decision in coming to LSU. Heck, to be honest, I don't know why any top back would come to LSU.


Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81439 posts
Posted on 8/4/09 at 8:17 pm to
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no different than how you think not playing Scott was the only reason we lost that game

if you are #1 in the country and go to UK and cannot win comfortably with your starting RB in the game (or any RB in the game) then you have many more major issues aside from your backup RB not getting more carries

remember, UK's 3rd string RB ran all over us that day.. the kid's name is Derrick Locke and he's STILL a backup on their depth chart

so don't pin it all on being as easy as Scott playing more... Scott had his chance to prolong the game and didn't get it done


i never pinned it all on that. you are the one pinning none of it on that. Sure, running backs dont matter at all if Pelini sucks or you show up unmotivated as #1. Gotcha.

I'm still missing how other things going wrong with his team completely absolve Miles/Porter from shitty usage of the RBs.
Posted by Thoreauxbred
Member since Jul 2009
285 posts
Posted on 8/4/09 at 8:19 pm to
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without keiland going bonkers against AU for that TD we don't win shite


without Hester coming through for us like fifty times against Florida, we don't even make it to the Auburn game with a chance to play for a National Title
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