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re: Rankings don't truly matter...
Posted on 1/29/20 at 4:00 pm to paper tiger
Posted on 1/29/20 at 4:00 pm to paper tiger
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You are just making the age old Jacob Hester argument with Justin Jefferson instead.
I am not making an argument. What I posted is from an article that a recruiting service published on their website. If you don't believe them, then fine. Argue with them, I have no dog in the fight.
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Jacob Hester was a two star. Jacob Hester played better than a two star. Therefore rankings are meaningless.
As stated in the article, if he had been offered by Alabama he would not have been a 2-star. Like was published and I think quoted in my last post - 24/7 points out that they don't discover and rate prospects. If colleges don't pay attention to recruits, neither do they. They follow the college's lead.
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That's different than saying they do not matter. Let a team ranked 50 in recruiting rankings play Alabama or LSU. Barring the once every blue moon Troy type upset, the 50th ranked team is going to get crushed.
Again, the chicken or the egg? I have always thought it was the chicken based on what I have seen Shea Dixon say in his tweets. AND the obvious Bama bump and to a much lesser extent the LSU bump. NOW, I know for a fact after reading the article that I linked that was written by 24/7.
Again, if you don't believe them and what they say, fine. Email them or even talk to them in person on their board if you are a member. I didn't write it and have nothing to do with what they said.
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 4:15 pm to Tiger Ree
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Again, if you don't believe them and what they say, fine. Email them or even talk to them in person on their board if you are a member. I didn't write it and have nothing to do with what they said.
They are only saying that about players that are not camp guys and not very widely known nationally. There's thousands of recruits. They can't evaluate them all but for the most part they get them right from what film is available. Your argument you are trying to make is shortsighted. For every Jacob Hester and Justin Jefferson there are 20 who were evaluated correctly. 52 percent of 5-star players get drafted and 75 percent of those draftees are retained. Coming out of high school, a 5-star recruit thus has a 39 percent chance of "sticking" in the league. Pretty good when you only have 32 a year
Posted on 1/29/20 at 5:48 pm to Howyouluhdat
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They are only saying that about players that are not camp guys and not very widely known nationally. There's thousands of recruits. They can't evaluate them all but for the most part they get them right from what film is available.
Thank you very much. It is really very simple isn't it? The recruiting services don't have the resources that the top colleges have. They feed off the colleges and charge people who don't have a clue to pay for them to watch what the programs do. I wish I had thought of it.
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Your argument you are trying to make is shortsighted. For every Jacob Hester and Justin Jefferson there are 20 who were evaluated correctly.
Yeah, you are barking up the wrong fricking tree. I did not bring up Hester or Jefferson and am not concerned with them. I am posting what a recruiting service wrote in an article that they posted on their website.
If you are so slow you can't pick up on this, I don't what to tell you. I love you man. Not everyone in my family is very bright either, or so I have been told.
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For every Jacob Hester and Justin Jefferson there are 20 who were evaluated correctly. 52 percent of 5-star players get drafted and 75 percent of those draftees are retained. Coming out of high school, a 5-star recruit thus has a 39 percent chance of "sticking" in the league. Pretty good when you only have 32 a year
Yep, because the BIG TIME football programs that have a bunch of analysts and win all the time are better at attracting and signing better players. The services you give your money to are very good at watching what the top programs are doing and selling you a subscription to find out what everyone already knows.
Nothing wrong with that at all. I am a little jealous that I didn't think of it. I was following recruiting before any recruiting service ever existed.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 5:56 pm to Howyouluhdat
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52 percent of 5-star players get drafted and 75 percent of those draftees are retained
Come on man. I would really hope and expect this to be a much higher percentage. Are you talking about the first round of the draft?
52% is something I wouldn't even bring up. that is horrible. Hell Louisiana weathermen are probably as good or better than that and everybody hates them or did when I lived there.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:06 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:Well, this year, they've already ordered the shirts.
What about Clemson? They rarely finish top-10 in recruiting
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:18 pm to Tiger Ree
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I did not bring up Hester or Jefferson and am not concerned with them.
You did in your 247 quote
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Come on man. I would really hope and expect this to be a much higher percentage. Are you talking about the first round of the draft?
You think it’s easy to make an NFL team much less stay on one? Come on bro really?
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The odds are tough if you want to make it into the NFL. Only 0.2 percent of high school football players and just 1.5 percent of college football players make it on an NFL roster at all. And the average career length is even shorter than you can imagine—just 2.66 years.
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to determine that offensive linemen have the longest average career at 3.75 years, with wide receivers the shortest, at 2 years and 2.5 months. The average quarterback lasts 3 years and 1 month. To put these numbers in perspective against other pro sports, the average Major League Baseball career is 5.6 years. That's also the average National Hockey League career, and the average National Basketball League career is 4.8 years.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 7:40 pm
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:41 pm to FatMan
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Rankings don't truly matter... by FatMan
If not...check and see where the teams in the SEC have finished in the rankings and then check on Akron and Buffalo!
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:00 pm to FatMan
6 of the top 8 in the SEC
4 of 7 in the SEC West
Pretty insane
4 of 7 in the SEC West
Pretty insane
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