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Posted on 5/3/09 at 7:51 pm
Posted by TGRFN
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Posted on 5/3/09 at 7:51 pm
UNC--i have read your posts on Eackles and Langston. I am wondering why Trent Johnson wouldn't offer Eackles and wouldn't be recruiting Galloway harder? I have been impressed with TJ since his days at Nevada as a coach. It seems as though you don't think he is recruiting these kids as hard as he should. Why do you think that is?
Posted by tigerjake
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/3/09 at 10:08 pm to
Hes recruiting Galloway, but that doesn't mean that he will land him. Give the guy a chance...we have big years in 2011 and 2012 in Louisiana BB recruiting.
Posted by UNCTarHeels
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
1401 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 2:07 am to
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UNC--i have read your posts on Eackles and Langston. I am wondering why Trent Johnson wouldn't offer Eackles and wouldn't be recruiting Galloway harder? I have been impressed with TJ since his days at Nevada as a coach. It seems as though you don't think he is recruiting these kids as hard as he should. Why do you think that is


Well, I am hearing from people within the program that he didn't offer Eackles with the anticipation of having a very talented 2010 class coming. I personally don't agree with not offering Eackles because I think Ledrick could have a lasting impression on the program kind of how Darrell Mitchell had.

Now as for Galloway, that recruitment started back up this past week with Coach Scott contacted CLA's coach and Galloway. I think they are re-focusing their attention to Galloway as their primary guard target because of how well he has played in recent tournaments with the La. Select Nike team. Now, the recruiting of LG with LSU had been slow since December, which LG hasn't had many calls from LSU since about Dec. up until this recent call last week. It will definitely come down to how hard LSU recruits him if he goes there. If they stay on him just a little bit he will not go there, but if they get on him like they were last summer, they LSU has a great shot.


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Hes recruiting Galloway, but that doesn't mean that he will land him. Give the guy a chance...we have big years in 2011 and 2012 in Louisiana BB recruiting.


Yes he is recruiting Galloway, but he hasn't been recruiting him hard like last summer and when this past season started. Now, things may start changing again, so we will. And what was the comment about 2011 and 2012 being big years in recruiting? His biggest year in recruiting is this 2010 class and 2012 class. The 2011 class is like this 2009 class, talented but not too many LSU/SEC caliber kids.
This post was edited on 5/4/09 at 2:09 am
Posted by tigerjake
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
2827 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 2:51 am to
Guess I was thinking of 2010 and 2012.
Posted by TGRFN
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/4/09 at 5:28 am to
UNC--thanks for the reply. As usual, you come through for us.

I have never seem young Eackles play, but if he is anywhere close to his dad, i'd be at his house with the paperwork today. I'm not sure what happened between Ledell and Dale Brown back in 1986 or 1987 to make Ledell sign with UNO. I think he was the top rated JUCO guy out of San Jacinto and the Tigers were in the middle of a pretty good run. What could have been.

I am giving coach TJ the benefit of the doubt. Your explanation about 2010 makes sense. I hope he doesn't miss out on a solid 2009 player just because he wants to wait. It looks like he'll have room for at least 3 more in 2010. My guess is that he is shooting for Derenbecker, Galloway, and a third player. I read they are recruiting the Turner kid from Alabama, who compares himself to Marcus Thornton. They are also in on Brian Williams. Is LSU putting Williams on the backburner? How good is TJ/staff at recruiting? I know Keith Richard was a good recruiter at La. Tech.
Posted by glenoaks
Austin
Member since Mar 2009
3366 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 10:42 am to
Ralster Turner is the top priority, then brian williams (at the SG position)
Posted by UNCTarHeels
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
1401 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 3:58 pm to
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UNC--thanks for the reply. As usual, you come through for us.

I have never seem young Eackles play, but if he is anywhere close to his dad, i'd be at his house with the paperwork today. I'm not sure what happened between Ledell and Dale Brown back in 1986 or 1987 to make Ledell sign with UNO. I think he was the top rated JUCO guy out of San Jacinto and the Tigers were in the middle of a pretty good run. What could have been.

I am giving coach TJ the benefit of the doubt. Your explanation about 2010 makes sense. I hope he doesn't miss out on a solid 2009 player just because he wants to wait. It looks like he'll have room for at least 3 more in 2010. My guess is that he is shooting for Derenbecker, Galloway, and a third player. I read they are recruiting the Turner kid from Alabama, who compares himself to Marcus Thornton. They are also in on Brian Williams. Is LSU putting Williams on the backburner? How good is TJ/staff at recruiting? I know Keith Richard was a good recruiter at La. Tech.


Well, they are re-evaluating everybody in Louisiana they have been recruiting, which I think is not smart because other schools will reap the benefits of our talented La. kids in the 2010 class. They have gotten a taste of success and are now trying to go after national talent instead of local talent. If they went with local kids they would still win, but they are getting too big headed to recruit local kids, kind of how Brady got when he won with local talent and then chose to go with national talent and not do as well.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 4:14 pm to
Well, they are re-evaluating everybody in Louisiana they have been recruiting, which I think is not smart because other schools will reap the benefits of our talented La. kids in the 2010 class. They have gotten a taste of success and are now trying to go after national talent instead of local talent. If they went with local kids they would still win, but they are getting too big headed to recruit local kids, kind of how Brady got when he won with local talent and then chose to go with national talent and not do as well.


I think re-evaluating all the players we have been recruiting since TJ has been here is very smart. After a year in the SEC and playing UNC, he has a better idea the type of talent needed to be succesful consistantly.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 4:16 pm to
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Well, they are re-evaluating everybody in Louisiana they have been recruiting, which I think is not smart because other schools will reap the benefits of our talented La. kids in the 2010 class. They have gotten a taste of success and are now trying to go after national talent instead of local talent. If they went with local kids they would still win, but they are getting too big headed to recruit local kids, kind of how Brady got when he won with local talent and then chose to go with national talent and not do as well.


I appreciate the info but you seem to have a chip on your shoulder about the current staff for some reason and you're making a lot of unsubstantiated claims based on things that you, nor I, know anything about. You aren't privy to their recruiting strategy even if you have a relationship with a high profile recruit in the state.
Posted by UNCTarHeels
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
1401 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 4:27 pm to
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I appreciate the info but you seem to have a chip on your shoulder about the current staff for some reason and you're making a lot of unsubstantiated claims based on things that you, nor I, know anything about. You aren't privy to their recruiting strategy even if you have a relationship with a high profile recruit in the state


This is a fact, they are re-evaluating all their recruits in La. even some that are locks to be a high major signee. I have no grudge, I love this new staff LSU has, but they are trying to go and recruit out of state kids that yes, they are talented, but if they don't land them, and you try and come in late to land a local talent, it will be too late. LSU would have a great class with just the the 2010 La. Kids but they want to go and get others. They could recruit within 100 miles of BR and have a highly talented class. The only thing outside of the state they need to go get is a Big, but then you really don't need to go outside the state because you have Malcolm White who will be eligible that year.
Posted by UNCTarHeels
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
1401 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 4:29 pm to
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ell, they are re-evaluating everybody in Louisiana they have been recruiting, which I think is not smart because other schools will reap the benefits of our talented La. kids in the 2010 class. They have gotten a taste of success and are now trying to go after national talent instead of local talent. If they went with local kids they would still win, but they are getting too big headed to recruit local kids, kind of how Brady got when he won with local talent and then chose to go with national talent and not do as well.


I think re-evaluating all the players we have been recruiting since TJ has been here is very smart. After a year in the SEC and playing UNC, he has a better idea the type of talent needed to be succesful consistantly.


No he doesn't have to re-evlauate, he just needed depth this season. If he had two more players this season, he could have gave UNC a really much more then anticipated test. And if he had 2 more players, he may have been a higher seed, he has the idea right that he needs more players, but you don't have to leave the state this season to do so, now for the 2011 class you may have to but not this 2010 class.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 4:52 pm to
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This is a fact, they are re-evaluating all their recruits in La. even some that are locks to be a high major signee. I have no grudge, I love this new staff LSU has, but they are trying to go and recruit out of state kids that yes, they are talented, but if they don't land them, and you try and come in late to land a local talent, it will be too late. LSU would have a great class with just the the 2010 La. Kids but they want to go and get others. They could recruit within 100 miles of BR and have a highly talented class. The only thing outside of the state they need to go get is a Big, but then you really don't need to go outside the state because you have Malcolm White who will be eligible that year.


I don't know their approach but based on offers, it seems as though they like a lot of LA kids for 2010. My understanding is that Galloway isn't happy with the effort they have shown in recruiting him and to be honest, I can't speak on that. I don't know their methods and I don't know what Galloway is looking for. Based on his recent updates, I still don't understand wht he's looking for other than more phone calls.
Posted by UNCTarHeels
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
1401 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 4:54 pm to
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This is a fact, they are re-evaluating all their recruits in La. even some that are locks to be a high major signee. I have no grudge, I love this new staff LSU has, but they are trying to go and recruit out of state kids that yes, they are talented, but if they don't land them, and you try and come in late to land a local talent, it will be too late. LSU would have a great class with just the the 2010 La. Kids but they want to go and get others. They could recruit within 100 miles of BR and have a highly talented class. The only thing outside of the state they need to go get is a Big, but then you really don't need to go outside the state because you have Malcolm White who will be eligible that year.
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I don't know their approach but based on offers, it seems as though they like a lot of LA kids for 2010. My understanding is that Galloway isn't happy with the effort they have shown in recruiting him and to be honest, I can't speak on that. I don't know their methods and I don't know what Galloway is looking for. Based on his recent updates, I still don't understand wht he's looking for other than more phone calls.


Yea, their offers are still on the table, but they are close to taking back offers that they made, it hasn't happened, but I am just saying, dont be surprised when it is made public that certain kids have offers taken off the table.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 6:50 pm to


No he doesn't have to re-evlauate, he just needed depth this season. If he had two more players this season, he could have gave UNC a really much more then anticipated test. And if he had 2 more players, he may have been a higher seed, he has the idea right that he needs more players, but you don't have to leave the state this season to do so, now for the 2011 class you may have to but not this 2010 class.


Why do you think it's only LA kids being re-evlauated? The staff evlauation of players maybe totally different than yours. So do you think the staff should only recruit LA players?

Posted by TeamLSU
Member since Feb 2009
3682 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 7:21 pm to
UNC-I have seen Eackles play on numerous occasions and my personal opinion is that there are better options than him. Also, if I were a D1 coach my question would be to Eackles, why have you moved around so often? Because basically, you are evaluated on the AAU circuit not so much your high school team.
Posted by BallyHOO
Member since Oct 2005
6846 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 10:14 pm to
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Question for UNCTarheels on BB recruiting


Do you normally ask yourself questions?

ALTER!!!!
Posted by UNCTarHeels
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
1401 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 10:59 pm to
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No he doesn't have to re-evlauate, he just needed depth this season. If he had two more players this season, he could have gave UNC a really much more then anticipated test. And if he had 2 more players, he may have been a higher seed, he has the idea right that he needs more players, but you don't have to leave the state this season to do so, now for the 2011 class you may have to but not this 2010 class.


Why do you think it's only LA kids being re-evlauated? The staff evlauation of players maybe totally different than yours. So do you think the staff should only recruit LA players?


It is only La. kids being re-evaluated because they don't have the big names or the reputation like the Phil Pressey's, the Ralston Turner's, the Tobi Oyediji's and kids like that. LSU is recruiting now, by star rankings, not necessarily talent. Whether you want to believe that or not is on you, but they are recruiting kids off name only, not by talent. Several of the kids they are recruiting, our La. kids have already proven themselves against.
Posted by UNCTarHeels
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
1401 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 11:03 pm to
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UNC-I have seen Eackles play on numerous occasions and my personal opinion is that there are better options than him. Also, if I were a D1 coach my question would be to Eackles, why have you moved around so often? Because basically, you are evaluated on the AAU circuit not so much your high school team.


I too have seen eackles play numerous times, but have you watched him last summer/spring circuit or this season with Hargrave, he isn't the same type player as he was in HS. He is alot more mature physically and mentally, a better defensive player, more physical, stronger, smarter, and alot more athletic. He is an SEC player, just ask Marcus Thornton, Tasmin, Temple and them guys, they will tell you the same. he has played pickup with them in "the dungeon" several times and either held his own or did better then each of them. Also, ask Lance Stephenson who Eackles put 28 on last Spring in the Real Deal on the Hill tourney in Ark. The kid can play, all of your assessments are based on HS, not on the national stage or national prep school circuit which is A LOT more credible then HS.
Posted by UNCTarHeels
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
1401 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 11:04 pm to
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Question for UNCTarheels on BB recruiting
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Do you normally ask yourself questions?

ALTER!!!!


Huh? Who is asking themselves questions?
Posted by Bert Lyons 716
Member since Jan 2006
1528 posts
Posted on 5/5/09 at 5:22 am to
Thanks guys,good info.
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