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re: Official 2013 RMD Thread - In the Books!

Posted on 2/16/13 at 5:24 pm to
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 5:24 pm to
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Actually that a terrible comparison. If you can find an article that says that Northwestern is considering moving him to WR, then that's fine. I tried looking and I couldn't find one.


He hasn't even stepped on campus yet. Look at their QB/WR Kain Coulter recruited as a QB and listed there but ended up playing WR. There are just as many examples of this as their corners playing safety and Tackles playing guard its an extremely common transition.
This post was edited on 2/16/13 at 5:25 pm
Posted by PastySkankster
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 5:38 pm to
The same Kain Colter who was listed as an ATHLETE on Rivals and on his Scout profile it says,

quote:

Super smooth athlete that could play multiple positions. Safety or slot receiver could be a possibility.


Matt Alviti's scout profile:

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Alviti comes from a high school system that will have him prepared for college. He is a great passer who can make all the throws. He has touch when he needs to, velocity when he needs to, and does very well on the run. He's an athletic kid who can make plays with his feet and escape the rush and he has great poise and intangibles. He's not the tallest of quarterbacks, but his ability to roll on and throw on the move will help that


-jembeurt
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 5:57 pm to
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The same Kain Colter who was listed as an ATHLETE on Rivals


He was listed as QB on Scout, ESPN and 247. He was listed as QB his first year on Northwestern's roster then moved to WR.

Ryan Tannehill, Keith Nichol, Russell Shepperd, Marvin McNutt, Devin Gardner and dozens probable hundreds of other guys listed as dual threat QBs who played WR in college.

This is an injustice that I can't pick him at WR.
This post was edited on 2/16/13 at 5:59 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 6:54 pm to
In 2005 Northwestern recruited a QB named Eric Peterman unless you are a Big Ten fan you probable have no idea who he is.

Scout Profile: LINK
Rivals Profile: LINK

Northwestern Profile: LINK

Never mentioned once as WR yet moved positions as a freshman and ended up like top 10 all time in Northwestern receiving records. There is another parallel which you will understand later if you let me make my pick.

What more do I have to do to convince you?
Posted by PastySkankster
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 7:27 pm to
Bump
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

PastySkankster
So can I have my pick?
Posted by PastySkankster
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 7:33 pm to
Pick over man
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 7:37 pm to
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Pick over man

So does everyone's pick have to be at their listed position for it to be valid? I would like to know for the future?
Posted by PastySkankster
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 7:42 pm to
Know that if you pick a QB after already picking a QB, we will call you out on it. There is no conspiracy. Simple fun game. Don't try and bend the few rules that we have. If your player isn't considered anything other than a QB, don't try to make them a WR so that you can have all of the players that you want.

This post was edited on 2/16/13 at 7:45 pm
Posted by RollTigers
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 7:44 pm to
Your argument: quarterbacks often become wrs in college. This guy is fast, so I should be able to pick him as wr. That argument could apply to ANY qb with decent speed. If that train of thought is acceptable, someone could draft 6 qbs and claim a 5 wide standard. Then someone could draft 7 DEs because sometimes they transition to DT and LB. He's a qb first. He should be drafted as a qb. All the admins seem to agree. For what it's worth, I agree with them.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 8:01 pm to
My new pick is Northwestern "wide receiver" Tommy Fuessel. Even though I think he's Northwestern's future QB(making Alviti switch to WR as happens every year in college football with Dual Threat QBs) and would of picked him in the bonus rounds as a QB. But since he's listed as a "wide receiver" by https://www.scout.com and must be one I'll take him now. And this is what I meant when I said it will make sense later
This post was edited on 2/16/13 at 8:05 pm
Posted by PastySkankster
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 8:18 pm to
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My new pick is Northwestern "wide receiver" Tommy Fuessel. Even though I think he's Northwestern's future QB(making Alviti switch to WR as happens every year in college football with Dual Threat QBs) and would of picked him in the bonus rounds as a QB. But since he's listed as a "wide receiver" by LINK and must be one I'll take him now. And this is what I meant when I said it will make sense later


So you are trying to pick another f--king QB....right?? Quit cheating and move on to the next round. This is a waste of time.

By the way, read this and tell me if he is moving to WR.

Alviti Link
This post was edited on 2/16/13 at 8:26 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 8:31 pm to
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

By the way, read this and tell me if he is moving to WR.

Alviti Link
yes he'll come in as QB and may or may not get beat out and switch positions which happens every year at every position.
Posted by PastySkankster
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 8:40 pm to
You misunderstood my post. It is clear as glass that you planned on picking another QB in Rd 12-13 after taking a QB in Rd 1. One of those boys you had in mind for QB. That is fact. The first NW guy you picked is clearly the QB that the head coach is planning on building around with no plans to move to WR. The other guy that you mention is QB/ATH/WR. You are waring my arse out on this. Please move along.
This post was edited on 2/16/13 at 8:42 pm
Posted by jembeurt
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 8:55 pm to
Without extending this arguement any more, what Pasty was saying is that he doesn't see, or have you shown, anything that proves Alviti was moving to WR. In fact, the link he provided shows Pat Fitzgerald saying he is "a very dynamic dual threat quarteback".

Then in rebuttal, you post a picture of Fuessel's Scout page with him being a WR, which says nothing about Alviti and his moving to WR. Just because one guy can move doesn't mean all can. Hell the coach says nothing about it.

If Fuessel moves to QB, then great pick on your part.
Posted by jembeurt
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 9:39 pm to
jembeurt selects Dane Crane, OC Washington

This post was edited on 2/16/13 at 10:23 pm
Posted by Dro
Barrett's Barleycorn
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 9:50 pm to
Pick coming in guys, sorry for the delay
Posted by Dro
Barrett's Barleycorn
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 9:57 pm to
Team Dro selects Earnest Robinson WR, Auburn



Ht:6'3"
Wt:200 lbs
40:4.51 secs
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 9:59 pm to
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Without extending this arguement any more, what Pasty was saying is that he doesn't see, or have you shown, anything that proves Alviti was moving to WR. In fact, the link he provided shows Pat Fitzgerald saying he is "a very dynamic dual threat quarteback".

Then in rebuttal, you post a picture of Fuessel's Scout page with him being a WR, which says nothing about Alviti and his moving to WR. Just because one guy can move doesn't mean all can. Hell the coach says nothing about it.

If Fuessel moves to QB, then great pick on your part.
I don't think its any different then projecting a tackle to guard or a corner to a safety. Position switches happen every year at every program some times the position switches are talked about during the recruitment, most times they aren't. Obviously you shouldn't be projecting at every single position but I thought 1 or 2 realistic projections were ok.

Anyway its over now.
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