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re: No SEC camps through July 31
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:34 pm to deuce985
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:34 pm to deuce985
Who would think the cases aren’t going up when you open up? Regardless, 60-70 percent of people are going to have to get infected if no vaccine.
A lot of people don’t seem to understand that. We can all sit home and get to zero infections. But the virus will still be there when you do finally go out.
A lot of people don’t seem to understand that. We can all sit home and get to zero infections. But the virus will still be there when you do finally go out.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 8:38 pm
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Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:35 pm to Judge Mental
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As for the rest, I realize the likelihood of 17yos contracting COVID-19 and getting seriously ill is very low, but can you imagine the shite storm if someone did? What if they transmit it to a vulnerable family member? Plus, many older people (including some with underlying conditions) are involved in the camps. What about them? This sport is the opposite of social distancing.
I’m upset at the whole thing but I’m just not mad at anyone (elected, appointed, or otherwise) who has to make tough decisions about an issue that affects people for whom they are responsible.
My point is that there is no guarantee in your son's lifetime there will even be a vaccine. It's all conjecture. I forsee a lot of liability waivers in the future. If you go to a public event and you get sick, sorry, you don't need to be there.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:37 pm to deuce985
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Amazing how many people are so ignorant to this. Georgia who opened up premature is already spiking in cases again.
We will have herd immunity before a vaccine. We need to get it somehow.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:41 pm to tigerskin
No people can use common sense and take precaution as to not infect other people. It's really not that difficult. Why do other countries with more densely packed areas have better management on this virus? Because their people already practiced smart hygiene procedure for years because they're use to this. They also aggressively test and contain.
It doesn't help your president constantly sends mixed messages to his public which rallies the ignorant even more to think this is something fake. The people are wrong on this virus because it shows you how much they don't know about it which is what makes it dangerous without treatment/vaccines.
If people would just be smart it wouldn't spread like it is even asymptomatic people. Of course it's asking too much to trust the average person to use common sense especially since your government doesn't do a very good job instilling trust when they constantly send mixed messages to the public. It might come down to 60-70 percent getting infected who knows. That's dangerous in itself though you risk mutations into stronger possibly more deadly strains that could destroy any vaccine chances in 18 months.
It doesn't help your president constantly sends mixed messages to his public which rallies the ignorant even more to think this is something fake. The people are wrong on this virus because it shows you how much they don't know about it which is what makes it dangerous without treatment/vaccines.
If people would just be smart it wouldn't spread like it is even asymptomatic people. Of course it's asking too much to trust the average person to use common sense especially since your government doesn't do a very good job instilling trust when they constantly send mixed messages to the public. It might come down to 60-70 percent getting infected who knows. That's dangerous in itself though you risk mutations into stronger possibly more deadly strains that could destroy any vaccine chances in 18 months.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:45 pm to Judge Mental
Corona virus...LOL. What do you know about corona virus.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:45 pm to deuce985
You can’t avoid infecting other people in a contact sport. Sorry, you just can’t.
We can do a shitload of testing to lower the risk, but there will be risk. We either accept that or go in a shell for 2 years.
We can do a shitload of testing to lower the risk, but there will be risk. We either accept that or go in a shell for 2 years.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:47 pm to tigerskin
Only way I can see it working is if we have 15 minute testing on every personnel before every football game. Might be a possibility testing is that capable by fall but not likely? I don't think we're getting football this year because as soon as someone is infected they're shutting it down completely.
You're going to have to live without it. Also, as far as a vaccine goes they're actually optimistic if everything goes right they could be done by September and effectively have it mass produced and out by January from trials. That's only if everything goes absolutely perfect and would be the fastest vaccine ever so it's not likely either. There's at least 30 vaccines in production right now and some are ahead of others so it's a possibility. I wouldn't underestimate healthcare under extreme circumstances.
Germany in particular has done an amazing job with this virus and are easily the leaders.
You're going to have to live without it. Also, as far as a vaccine goes they're actually optimistic if everything goes right they could be done by September and effectively have it mass produced and out by January from trials. That's only if everything goes absolutely perfect and would be the fastest vaccine ever so it's not likely either. There's at least 30 vaccines in production right now and some are ahead of others so it's a possibility. I wouldn't underestimate healthcare under extreme circumstances.
Germany in particular has done an amazing job with this virus and are easily the leaders.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:50 pm to deuce985
And shutting sports down will be by a choice because we are not adjusting our mentality to the reality of what this is.
The entire purpose of this was supposed to be about not overloading the medical system. That has somehow morphed into “nobody can get infected” which will actually be more harmful to us in the long run.
It doesn’t matter who “is doing better.” The endpoint of 60-70 percent infected will be the same for everyone if no vaccine.
The entire purpose of this was supposed to be about not overloading the medical system. That has somehow morphed into “nobody can get infected” which will actually be more harmful to us in the long run.
It doesn’t matter who “is doing better.” The endpoint of 60-70 percent infected will be the same for everyone if no vaccine.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:53 pm to tigerskin
Well, I think in some circumstances states like Georgia and Florida are absolutely dumb as opening up this early. Other states are far better prepared to open up right now which make more sense. Georgia and Florida are not ready to be opened as evidenced by Georgia already seeing a spike in hospitalizations and over 1400 cases in a single day. They didn't even flatten their curve and they're already opening up with consequences.
Summer is not going to kill or slow this off because we have no immunity even if it's weak to humidity/heat.
Summer is not going to kill or slow this off because we have no immunity even if it's weak to humidity/heat.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:54 pm to deuce985
If they aren’t overloading the medical capacity, it doesn’t matter.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:54 pm to deuce985
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Only way I can see it working is if we have 15 minute testing on every personnel before every football game. Might be a possibility testing is that capable by fall but not likely? I don't think we're getting football this year because as soon as someone is infected they're shutting it down completely.
Can you link information on someone from the medical community that says there is going to be a 15 minute test in the next 6 months?
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You're going to have to live without it. Also, as far as a vaccine goes they're actually optimistic if everything goes right they could be done by September and effectively have it mass produced and out by January from trials. That's only if everything goes absolutely perfect and would be the fastest vaccine ever so it's not likely either. There's at least 30 vaccines in production right now and some are ahead of others so it's a possibility. I wouldn't underestimate healthcare under extreme circumstances.
No offense, but BS. And if everything goes perfect? Sounds like even you don't believe it's going to happen. If you want to stay at home for the next 2 years be my guest.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:56 pm to GhostofJackson
15 minute testing already exists it just is being used in more hot spot areas right now. They're producing well over 50k tests a day and I think they actually ramped that number way up recently. They'll have millions by the fall especially when less testing is going on during the next few months. You want to cover your population but I'm not sure that's possible by fall.
If a second wave flops up which is likely then we'll be way better prepared for it. Or we should be at least.
If a second wave flops up which is likely then we'll be way better prepared for it. Or we should be at least.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:58 pm to deuce985
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1400 cases
So a state of over 10,000,000 people got 1400 cases of a virus that has a mortality rate of less than 1 percent and you are freaking out?
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:58 pm to deuce985
I will agree with you there that Abbott has a 15 minute test and it will obviously be ramped up. To what extent, I don’t know. Yes, pro athletes will have first access.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:59 pm to deuce985
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You want to cover your population but I'm not sure that's possible by fall.
What does that even mean?
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:59 pm to deuce985
A second wave isn’t likely.....it is definite. And nothing is going to prevent that.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:00 pm to tigerskin
That would allow football to happen if every person at every game gets tested with no crowds. Going to have some weird shite like piped in crowd noise which will just be bizarre. Why even watch football at that point? I'll bet it will be like watching zombies play. frick I watched WWE not long ago and that was the most bizarre shite ever. 
The slapping, horrible acting, no crowds getting into it because they don't exist...it was so awkward...
The slapping, horrible acting, no crowds getting into it because they don't exist...it was so awkward...
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:01 pm to tigerskin
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A second wave isn’t likely.....it is definite. And nothing is going to prevent that.
Exactly. Let's ramp up our immunity now. Can you imagine the numbers of people that will die in the winter if a blizzard comes through and immobilizes and area? People need to get their immunity now.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:03 pm to GhostofJackson
Agree
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:04 pm to GhostofJackson
Dude you're one ignorant dude. Do yourself a favor and go outside of your bubble. It means testing being ramped up so you can immediately contain people sick so it stops spreading. When you have millions of test kits available you can test anyone of any little symptom if they suspect they might have something rather than turning them away. That's partially why it spread so fast in the US was the lack of testing. Some of that was on Trump for turning away millions of kits from WHO and the lack of proactive preparation on top of the failed leadership with Pence leading the task force that messed up testing initially.
Testing puts you ahead of this virus and allows you to stay on top of it to contain it while practicing common sense procedure and just trusting the average American. Like I said they should be able to handle a second wave much easier.
Testing puts you ahead of this virus and allows you to stay on top of it to contain it while practicing common sense procedure and just trusting the average American. Like I said they should be able to handle a second wave much easier.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 9:12 pm
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