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Posted on 2/3/11 at 11:33 pm to Ebbandflow
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I love how there are so many LSU fans that sum up Fisher's entire career at LSU by one friggin game.
2000-2001 season
Houston won 28-13. Had to have a 56 yrd int to put the game away at the end of the 4th qtr
Auburn lost 17-34, great job
UAB lost 10-13, great job jimbo
Arkansas lost 3-14, another power house offense by jimbo
should i continue?
This post was edited on 2/3/11 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 2/3/11 at 11:36 pm to Ebbandflow
Obviously, every one has their own opinion on Jimbo Fisher. Hence, the reason for the 5 pages of posts. My two cents:
Jimbo is a great QB coach, OC, recruiter, and I believe he is on his way to being a great HC. Every one that has a problem with Fisher always brings up the 06 game against Auburn. I prefer to focus on how he turned guys like Josh Booty, Rohan Davey, and Matt Mauck into All-SEC QBs. It has been well rumored that one of the reasons Fisher left after two seasons with Miles was that Miles was meddling more and more with the offense. Every one has their own opinion on that as well.
I think Fisher will soon turn Florida State back into the dominant program in Florida...with the Gators and the Hurricanes chasing after them.
Jimbo is a great QB coach, OC, recruiter, and I believe he is on his way to being a great HC. Every one that has a problem with Fisher always brings up the 06 game against Auburn. I prefer to focus on how he turned guys like Josh Booty, Rohan Davey, and Matt Mauck into All-SEC QBs. It has been well rumored that one of the reasons Fisher left after two seasons with Miles was that Miles was meddling more and more with the offense. Every one has their own opinion on that as well.
I think Fisher will soon turn Florida State back into the dominant program in Florida...with the Gators and the Hurricanes chasing after them.
Posted on 2/3/11 at 11:44 pm to dgnx6
quote:
2000-2001 season
Houston won 28-13. Had to have a 56 yrd int to put the game away at the end of the 4th qtr
Auburn lost 17-34, great job
UAB lost 10-13, great job jimbo
Arkansas lost 3-14, another power house offense by jimbo
should i continue?
Offensive coordinator for the 2003 National Champion LSU Tigers
• Coached three players selected in the first round of the 2007 NFL draft including No. 1 overall pick JaMarcus Russell
• Coached five quarterbacks in seven years at LSU that were NFL draft picks (Josh Booty, Rohan Davey, Craig Nall, Matt Mauck and JaMarcus Russell)
• Tigers posted a 70-20 record and went to seven bowl games with Fisher as offensive coordinator. The 70 wins were the most over any seven-year stretch in LSU history as were the seven consecutive bowl appearances
• While at LSU the Tigers won two SEC titles and played in three BCS Bowl games including winning the national title in the 2004 Nokia Sugar Bowl
• Named a finalist for the Frank Broyles Award in 2001 as the nation's top assistant coach
• Coached the only two 3,000-yard passers in LSU history (Russell and Davey)
• Coached the only 3,000 yard passer in the history of Auburn football (Dameyune Craig)
• In 1999, his offense at Cincinnati was ranked 16th in the NCAA
We can play this game all day.
You know, every OC or DC has bad examples in their work. This is why I look at the ENTIRE body of work.
Posted on 2/3/11 at 11:46 pm to DandyD
quote:Chains broke.
Jimbo Fisher has really shown how great he is....as a coach and recruiter. Tell me ...again, how did we let him get away???DUH
Who are you bashing here anyways?
Miles? LSU Admin?
Posted on 2/3/11 at 11:47 pm to dgnx6
2001-2002 season
Lost 18-26 to Tenn
lost 14-44 to UF
2002-2003 season
Lost to va tech 8-26
Lost to Aub 7-31
Lost to Bama 0-31
Beat ole miss 14-13
Beat ark 20-21
Lost to Texas 20-35
2003-2004 season
UGA won 17-10
UF lost 7-19
Ole miss won 17-14 almost ruined any chances at bcs championship game. Jimbo has chad lavalais to thank
2004-2005 season
Aub lost 9-10
UGA lost 16-45
All of these were under Saban, so do any of these scores remind you of the Auburn 2006 game?
Lost 18-26 to Tenn
lost 14-44 to UF
2002-2003 season
Lost to va tech 8-26
Lost to Aub 7-31
Lost to Bama 0-31
Beat ole miss 14-13
Beat ark 20-21
Lost to Texas 20-35
2003-2004 season
UGA won 17-10
UF lost 7-19
Ole miss won 17-14 almost ruined any chances at bcs championship game. Jimbo has chad lavalais to thank
2004-2005 season
Aub lost 9-10
UGA lost 16-45
All of these were under Saban, so do any of these scores remind you of the Auburn 2006 game?
Posted on 2/3/11 at 11:49 pm to Ebbandflow
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Offensive coordinator for the 2003 National Champion LSU Tigers • Coached three players selected in the first round of the 2007 NFL draft including No. 1 overall pick JaMarcus Russell • Coached five quarterbacks in seven years at LSU that were NFL draft picks (Josh Booty, Rohan Davey, Craig Nall, Matt Mauck and JaMarcus Russell) • Tigers posted a 70-20 record and went to seven bowl games with Fisher as offensive coordinator. The 70 wins were the most over any seven-year stretch in LSU history as were the seven consecutive bowl appearances • While at LSU the Tigers won two SEC titles and played in three BCS Bowl games including winning the national title in the 2004 Nokia Sugar Bowl • Named a finalist for the Frank Broyles Award in 2001 as the nation's top assistant coach • Coached the only two 3,000-yard passers in LSU history (Russell and Davey) • Coached the only 3,000 yard passer in the history of Auburn football (Dameyune Craig) • In 1999, his offense at Cincinnati was ranked 16th in the NCAA We can play this game all day. You know, every OC or DC has bad examples in their work. This is why I look at the ENTIRE body of work.
But, but, but...... It is so easy to recruit at LSU we have all the best players. They should all be coached up to be first round draft picks. Sabans defense led them to two sec championships. You can count on that.
I dont think he is a bad coach or OC. I just dont think he is as good as everyone thinks. Plus im tired of hearing people blame miles for 06. If miles was calling the plays then he he should get credit for Jamarcus, bowe, and davis going in the first round. It was Jimbo who coached them, but miles playcalling the showcased their ability.
To me Jimbo had very conservative play calling while at LSU. Under Saban and Miles.
This post was edited on 2/3/11 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 2/3/11 at 11:55 pm to dgnx6
Since his first year with the Tigers in 2000, Fisher's offenses set numerous school records, including points in a season (475 in 2003), total yards (5,857 in 2003), and passing touchdowns (30 in 2003). Fisher's offenses currently hold 13 LSU school records.
2006 Tigers ranked No. 2 in the SEC in rushing with 165.8 yards per game despite not having a back with 500 yards rushing. LSU's running back-by-committee approach saw six different players lead the Tigers in rushing in 2006.
As a unit, the Tigers were once again atop the SEC in scoring (33.7 points per game) and total offense (417.5 yards per game). In 2005, the Tigers averaged 29.5 points and 374 yards per contest.
Fisher's 2004 offense featured a running game that led the SEC in rushing as the Tigers, behind running backs Alley Broussard, Justin Vincent and Addai, averaged 193.8 yards per game.
In 2003, his offense may have been the best from a production standpoint as the Tigers averaged 34 points per game on their way to scoring a school-record 475 points while also setting the school standard for total yards (5,857), first downs (298), completed passes (255) and passing touchdowns (30). In all, LSU averaged 418 yards per contest as the Tigers took advantage of their skill position weapons in Michael Clayton, Devery Henderson and Skyler Green, who combined for 179 receptions, 2,459 yards and 27 touchdowns.
2006 Tigers ranked No. 2 in the SEC in rushing with 165.8 yards per game despite not having a back with 500 yards rushing. LSU's running back-by-committee approach saw six different players lead the Tigers in rushing in 2006.
As a unit, the Tigers were once again atop the SEC in scoring (33.7 points per game) and total offense (417.5 yards per game). In 2005, the Tigers averaged 29.5 points and 374 yards per contest.
Fisher's 2004 offense featured a running game that led the SEC in rushing as the Tigers, behind running backs Alley Broussard, Justin Vincent and Addai, averaged 193.8 yards per game.
In 2003, his offense may have been the best from a production standpoint as the Tigers averaged 34 points per game on their way to scoring a school-record 475 points while also setting the school standard for total yards (5,857), first downs (298), completed passes (255) and passing touchdowns (30). In all, LSU averaged 418 yards per contest as the Tigers took advantage of their skill position weapons in Michael Clayton, Devery Henderson and Skyler Green, who combined for 179 receptions, 2,459 yards and 27 touchdowns.
Posted on 2/3/11 at 11:58 pm to dgnx6
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But, but, but...... It is so easy to recruit at LSU we have all the best players. They should all be coached up to be first round draft picks. Sabans defense led them to two sec championships. You can count on that.
I dont think he is a bad coach or OC. I just dont think he is as good as everyone thinks. Plus im tired of hearing people blame miles for 06. If miles was calling the plays then he he should get credit for Jamarcus, bowe, and davis.
I dont think he is really that great but he is certainly a top 25 college mind in terms of offense and that is pretty damn good. It sounds to me like you are trying to make him seem like he wasn't very good. Also, you keep trying to argue your points in every direction and its making your points weak. Look, I saw mike Leach held to 3 points by a Shula coached Bama team. Offenses get stopped. It happens to the best of them. Bringing out a few bad scores really doesn't sum up Fisher either. Some of it was bad execution. I mean, Randall and early Booty were starting for some of those games.
Posted on 2/3/11 at 11:59 pm to Ebbandflow
Im just giving specific examples of playing top teams where his offense underperformed just like Auburn 2006.
Im well aware of LSU's accomplishments while he was a coach here. But again he was the OC not the head coach.
Im well aware of LSU's accomplishments while he was a coach here. But again he was the OC not the head coach.
Posted on 2/4/11 at 12:03 am to Ebbandflow
That wasnt necessarily directed at you, but to anyone who states our offense should always be awesome. Regardless of who we play.
I know offenses get stopped, and his did multiple times. And to inferior opponents sometimes. Im not buying into the FSU hype.
So what do you think of crowton? JJ and lee are worse? Plus randall started in 04... that was 4 years into his LSU tenure. Obviously he didnt coach him up.
I know offenses get stopped, and his did multiple times. And to inferior opponents sometimes. Im not buying into the FSU hype.
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I mean, Randall and early Booty were starting for some of those games.
So what do you think of crowton? JJ and lee are worse? Plus randall started in 04... that was 4 years into his LSU tenure. Obviously he didnt coach him up.
This post was edited on 2/4/11 at 12:08 am
Posted on 2/4/11 at 12:27 am to dgnx6
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To me Jimbo had very conservative play calling while at LSU
So, conservative = wrong? What if going "conservative" is what allows you to get out of the game with a win, which is the ultimate objective?
Posted on 2/4/11 at 12:35 am to Rocket
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What if going "conservative" is what allows you to get out of the game with a win, which is the ultimate objective?
I though you didn't just want win, you wanted to dominate?
Why have you softed up for the Fisher Folies?
Posted on 2/4/11 at 12:39 am to Hitchcock
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though you didn't just want win, you wanted to dominate?
Of course I want to dominate but sometimes, we're not able to do that.
quote:
Why have you softed up for the Fisher Folies?
I haven't.
Posted on 2/4/11 at 12:40 am to Ebbandflow
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Since his first year with the Tigers in 2000, Fisher's offenses set numerous school records, including points in a season (475 in 2003), total yards (5,857 in 2003), and passing touchdowns (30 in 2003). Fisher's offenses currently hold 13 LSU school records.
Both of these records - both points & yardage were broken in 2007.
What are the other 13 records?
quote:Running Back by Committee left with Fisher. LSU has since had 3 different 1,000 yards rushers.
06 Tigers ranked No. 2 in the SEC in rushing with 165.8 yards per game despite not having a back with 500 yards rushing. LSU's running back-by-committee approach saw six different players lead the Tigers in rushing in 2006.
This post was edited on 2/4/11 at 12:43 am
Posted on 2/4/11 at 12:43 am to Hitchcock
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Both of these recrods both points & yardage were broken in 2007. What are the other 13 records? quote: 06 Tigers ranked No. 2 in the SEC in rushing with 165.8 yards per game despite not having a back with 500 yards rushing. LSU's running back-by-committee approach saw six different players lead the Tigers in rushing in 2006. Intersting that the Running back by Committe left with Fisher. LSU has since had 3 different 1,000 yards rushers.
This is what im trying to get at. Is it Jimbo, is it miles, is it crowton?
The lack of a passing game has helped out with this regards, but 07 and 08 were not bad in passing yds compared to 09 and 10. Both times Randall was the starter we should have relied more on the run. Just like we should have passed all over auburn in 06 when we had Jmarc. They decided to ride Jmarcs arm in the 4th quarter when we were losing, instead of doing it all game.
This post was edited on 2/4/11 at 12:48 am
Posted on 2/4/11 at 12:45 am to dgnx6
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his is what im trying to get at. Is it Jimbo, is it miles, is it crowton?
Fisher brought Running Back by Committee
Posted on 2/4/11 at 12:50 am to Hitchcock
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Fisher brought Running Back by Committee
But, Miles could have discontinued that while Fisher was still here. It's his program. Is Miles afraid of his OC's?
Posted on 2/4/11 at 12:51 am to Hitchcock
I meant over all results. You have some people blame miles, but Fisher's offense faulterd against a lot of the top opponents under saban. If Miles did have his hand in the offense then fisher needed to go any way. That would also mean Miles would get credit for 07.
Im not buying into Jimbo being able to get FSU back to where it was. FSU is still a huge name. Bobby was getting old and its def not any harder to recruit at FSU than it is at LSU, especially when UF and Miami changed coaches.
Im not buying into Jimbo being able to get FSU back to where it was. FSU is still a huge name. Bobby was getting old and its def not any harder to recruit at FSU than it is at LSU, especially when UF and Miami changed coaches.
This post was edited on 2/4/11 at 12:58 am
Posted on 2/4/11 at 12:53 am to byubengalboy
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fsu recruits itself (sounds familiar?)
I wish. Tallahassee is a town in the middle of nowhere in north FL. Jimbo is/has always been a great recruiter. As an Xs and Os coach, he is not anything great. Jimbo was not in any sort of real power the last two Bobby years. As an FSU and LSU fan, I remain leery of what Jimbo can do. No doubt he can recruit though.
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