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re: Jaquelin roy Decommitted??

Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:34 am to
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:34 am to
I’ve heard that schools like Michigan and Texas don’t allow their commits to visit other schools in the past. I would have no problem if we instituted that policy.
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:37 am to
Come to think of it, I do remember Mack Brown doing this at Texas.
I’m not sure it would work here, with kids loving the attention so much. I’m sure they’re asked not to take other visits, but they hold all the cards.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
11865 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:50 am to
There’s a simple solution here if they want attention, just don’t commit. No one is making these kids commit at any time during their recruitment. Take all the visits you want as an uncommitted prospect. Once you commit, everything should be shut down. Maybe I’m just old school.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:50 am to
I believe Clemson has that policy in place with Davi and it works out just fine for them.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:03 am to
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There’s a simple solution here if they want attention, just don’t commit. No one is making these kids commit at any time during their recruitment. Take all the visits you want as an uncommitted prospect. Once you commit, everything should be shut down. Maybe I’m just old school.


I'm pretty sure the coach has more of a sense of urgency than you do in these situations. He wants the commitment when they visit.

I don't think the coach or the players are doing anything wrong. Players commit then decommit these days. Doesn't mean that they have character issues. It means they're kids. That's just the era we live in. You adapt to it or get left behind.
This post was edited on 3/2/19 at 10:07 am
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:13 am to
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I personally believe once you commit, you shouldn’t be able to take other visits. A lot of schools don’t allow their committed players to visit elsewhere. We always have been too lenient in that department.



And a lot of schools allow their commits to visit elsewhere, including Bama.

I think you let them visit whoever while committed. It's basic adolescent psychology; you tell a kid he can't do something, then that's all he wants to do.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
11865 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:38 am to
I know most schools allow their commits to visit other schools, but you’re asking for trouble doing this, particularly with schools like bama who have mastered the recruiting game. Like one poster said, the no visit once committed rule has worked out just fine for Clemson. Kids will know your policy up front. The one thing that hasn’t changed through the years is that kids just want you to be honest and real with them.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13313 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:51 am to
The no visits while committed policy is only good in theory. Clemson is an exception not the rule. Some kids will listen but most will decommit and take visits anyway. My thought is if theyre taking visits then they arent committed anyway so its a wash.

The hypocrisy of that stance is that, Clemson for instance, will allow kids committed elsewhere to visit their campus. Cant have it both ways. Chris Peterson at Washington has a policy that doesnt allow kids committed elsewhere to visit. If you dont want kids committed to your school to take visits then dont allow kids committed elsewhere to visit yours. Simple as that. Bad policy because it limits your possibilities. Just my take.

Similar to the way we bitch about LA kids leaving the state and not having "state pride" yet half our classes are kids from out of state. Its just a bullshite fan talking point.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:57 am to
Well if you make your policy forbidding visits with other programs known before they commit, then yes it can work.

I just don't know what practical benefit is gained from it though. We would not have the #1 class right now if this policy were implemented. And I would imagine the policy correlates with lower class rankings. Clemson is the outlier; you can't point to the outlier as evidence that a policy is a good one.
This post was edited on 3/2/19 at 10:59 am
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
11865 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 11:01 am to
The issue is, the word committed in football recruiting doesn’t have the same meaning that it does in other aspects of life. There are too many games played by kids and other schools where they are anything but honest with coaches who are recruiting them. It’s a dirty game played by all. I have a greater appreciation and respect for guys that do commit early and stick by their word. I have no issue with a kid wanting to take all of their visits. Just do it as an uncommitted prospect.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 11:20 am to
Another aspect you're not considering is that early commits (especially elite commits) act as recruiters and positive advertisements for your program. They attract other commits. The momentum created is real.

I don't think anyone disagrees with you fundamentally. That said, I don't think that policy would be a good fit for this program or any SEC school for that matter. The landscape is too competitive.
This post was edited on 3/2/19 at 11:21 am
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
11865 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 1:21 pm to
Roy was supposedly a lead recruiter for the past few months and you see how that turned out. That’s not the norm and I agree with you.
Posted by jrowla2
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
4167 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 3:46 pm to
I really don’t understand the wording this guy used in his tweet. I assume he’s still interested in LSU and just wants to better explore his options. The wording makes it seem like it’s the week before signing day and he definitely ain’t coming to LSU. You’re literally in LSUs back yard, don’t act like you’re totally done with LSU and LSU won’t be still recruiting you.

At this point in the game, regardless of his intent, he shouldn’t have such a hard tone to his tweet.
Posted by 469LSU
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 5:02 pm to
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Posted by Smell the crawfish
In enemy territory
Member since Nov 2018
1542 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 5:27 pm to
He's a teenager and he's acting like a teenager! What teenager doesn't want attention and to be treated special. Like I've said before, recruiting is a dirty business and signing day is a long, long ways off. I'm sure Coach O is doing his thing behind the scene and is actively recruiting Roy and other guys just as good or better if Roy goes elsewhere!
Posted by GeauxTiger4life
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2017
271 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 6:55 pm to
Well, that went out the window when the staff ask him to not visit Bama! At the end of the day if a kid want to be at LSU than they will but they don't then life goes on at LSU! Only sign the kids that want to bleed purple and gold.
Posted by Antogivs89
Member since Oct 2017
211 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 4:22 am to
Bc... and hold on... he's a teenager and human. You mean to tell me you haven't committed to some things on your life, only to change your mind?
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
64188 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 6:04 am to
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He'll be back before this is over.


Someone should tell him that, because he’s saying that he’s moved on from LSU.
Posted by LSUDbrous90
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
1566 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:56 am to
So in any of these 9 pages does anyone have any actual real info on what is going on here? He just wanting to take visits? Stingley situation? He gone?
Posted by scotty1955
Bossier City
Member since Feb 2017
81 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 1:39 pm to
Funny thought....a pretty damn good RB named Emery decommitted from Georgia and chose LSU recently...you reckon this same conversation was happening on UGA Dawg Droppings or whatever the hell their bitch and moan recruiting forum is called?? These are kids.. you win some you lose some!!
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