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re: Ishmael Sopsher will be Chris Davenport 2.0 - Did not want.

Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:31 pm to
You really don't need more.

What you need is somebody to step up this year and give you a potential starter at end opposite Farrell in 2020 (assuming Logan goes pro after this year).

As to numbers, you are anything but short on defensive linemen.

You only lose one off the 2018 roster and you're adding three (actually four). You signed Ika, Evans and Fonua, who will likely add 15-20 pounds and play DE at 280 this year.

Your numbers on the defensive line are what they should be.

1. Lawrence
2. Fehoko
3. Logan
4. Shelvin
5. Farrell
6. Fonua
7. Justin Thomas
8. Cotton
9. Jenkins
10. Livingston
11. Ika
12. Evans
13. Mike Williams

That's more than four strings of defensive linemen, when in your nickel package you're pulling the nose guard - so you really only use 2 1/2 down linemen on defense.

This idea that we're desperate for numbers on the defensive line is patent BS. We need some of the younger guys already on the roster to become legitimate players, sure, but there isn't a program in college football who isn't faced with that - INCLUDING both Clemson AND Alabama.

Now, we'll want to take a big class full of blue-chip kids in 2020, and making sure we close the deal on Roy, Guillory, CamRonJackson and Jalen Lee, plus Branard Wright, is absolutely paramount.

But this "need more linemen" meme everybody is screaming isn't based in reality.
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 1:33 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64622 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

When I saw how he performed at the UA game as well as throughout the season, I was like hell naw!


yeah one of the plays they showed on ESPN2 as a "highlight" of his was him giving up on a play, standing stationary 10 yards away and waiting for the QB to run back his way, then just fell on top of him for the tackle because he's gigantic compared to his competition. He seems to be one of thosse guys that is rated highly because of his measurables and "potential" but may never live up to that potential because he's fat and too lazy to get in shape.
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted by The Goat
Right here, Chief
Member since Nov 2006
2801 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:35 pm to
That baw don’t sound too bright. I mean, I kinda felt sorry for him while he was reading. His entire family is relying on him to drive Chargers and go pro. I guess Saban figures he can keep him in school. Anyway, frick him and his mentally challenged family. May they all soon contract Gonorrhea.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32742 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:35 pm to
How do you see DE depth shaking out this year and next?
Posted by Whiskeyjack Del Rio
Duval
Member since Jan 2019
159 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:39 pm to
These threads do nothing except allow future recruits and their parents to come read and see how "welcome" they will be here.
Posted by TheBob
Metairie
Member since Jun 2005
16935 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:43 pm to
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Lulz

The classic "WE DIDN'T WANT HIM NO HOW!" line. We need D-linemen. He's the top rated D-lineman in our state. We whiffed on most of our back-up plans. No way getting around it, this is a bad look and doesn't bode well from a pure football standpoint.


I'm looking at this as a positive. We clearly put out the effort in Amite, so that can no longer be used as an excuse by the fat barber. Pretty sure people and kids in that area saw a greater effort and LSU presence than they have in the past, which should help in the long run with future players.

And I hate to beat this horse to death, but if you are an elite defensive lineman, there is no way in hell that you lose to Metairie Park Country Day.
Posted by GreatBrandino
Somewhere
Member since Nov 2008
561 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:43 pm to
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Ishmael Sopsher will be Chris Davenport 2.0


I 100% agree with this
Posted by 1723lale
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
2222 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:47 pm to
I hope he doesn't take a redshirt next year. I want to see Cush make him quit.
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
21739 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:47 pm to
That's fine and all but we still need DL and we barely got them
Posted by lsutiger2010
Member since Aug 2008
14790 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:48 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 2:40 pm
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:55 pm to
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We need some of the younger guys already on the roster to become legitimate players


Herein lies the problem. This is why you do not strike out on lineman every recruiting class which Orgeron has done consistently. None of the young guys are stepping up. They're not exactly getting pushed backwards by an amazing line. Fehoko and Lawrence are very inconsistent players.

Dline has a high bust % with high attrition rates. You have to bring in several highly touted guys every class and they have not done this for quite awhile. Every now and again LSU will land a highly touted guy but overall, they miss the mark more than anything and resort to lower players on their board. Not a recipe for success.
Posted by crownNbull
Gretna
Member since Jun 2010
3078 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 2:01 pm to
Had he came here, he would’ve been Chris Davenport 2.0. At Bama, he’ll turn in to Quinnen Williams 2.0.
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