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re: ESPN shows Leonard Fourneette as Bama commit?

Posted on 6/25/12 at 7:33 pm to
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 7:33 pm to
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No chance,at best 75%



nuh uh it's 82.789%.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 7:34 pm to
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Bama is the leader because St. Aug is full of anti-LSU folks right now.



Maybe, or maybe its because their RB coach is a St Aug alum and his last 2 feature backs were Mark Ingram (Heisman winner and 1st round pick) and Trent Richardson a Heisman finalist and #3 overall pick.

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Fournette is just a pawn and will do what they tell him to do.


That's a pretty low opinion of the kid.

This post was edited on 6/25/12 at 7:38 pm
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 7:37 pm to
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That's a pretty low opinion of the kid.



Not even an indictment against the kid but when the biggest influences on the football field are pushing you elsewhere because of Sylve's stepdad, Crutchfield, and Davis' old coach, it's an uphill battle for us. Those guys are in his ear everyday. I"m sure saban told Sylve that he would be the next great WR/Punt returner for Bama and the guy was put at corner immediately. The same will happen to Fournette and Saban's hopes for him to play linebacker.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 7:43 pm to
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Not even an indictment against the kid but when the biggest influences on the football field are pushing you elsewhere


No offense, but it is an indictment of the kid if you think he will just do as he told. The biggest influences may be pushing him else where, but they are not the only influences in his football life and if they are just blatantly anti-LSU I'd think people would notice.

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it's an uphill battle for us


That's very possible, but its not the same as saying the kid will just do as he's told by a coach who hasn't even coached a game with him yet.

The coach at Grayson was supposed to deliver Nkemdiche to Alabama too and it appears, they are at best in 3rd for him at the moment.

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I"m sure saban told Sylve that he would be the next great WR/Punt returner for Bama and the guy was put at corner immediately. The same will happen to Fournette and Saban's hopes for him to play linebacker


Sylve is no where near the level of recruit Fournette is.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 7:49 pm to
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No offense, but it is an indictment of the kid if you think he will just do as he told. The biggest influences may be pushing him else where, but they are not the only influences in his football life and if they are just blatantly anti-LSU I'd think people would notice.


They're 17-years old. Some kids are surrounded by people that will keep you grounded and others are surrounded by people that are going to do what they want to do. Right now, with the group of people around him at St. Aug on a daily basis, I don't think he'll have a very objective view of the process.

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The coach at Grayson was supposed to deliver Nkemdiche to Alabama too and it appears, they are at best in 3rd for him at the moment.


I think he did what he could to try to make that happen. Good thing there are other D1 players on that team. Can't say the same for St. Aug.

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Sylve is no where near the level of recruit Fournette is.



Just noting that sylve is at Bama and his step father is at St. Aug. Just another guy in their corner. It's shady what they're doing there.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 7:53 pm to
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I think he did what he could to try to make that happen.

I think Grayson's coach was just as happy to steer RN to his former teammate coaching Clemson as he would be to steer him to Bama. I said for a long time that Clemson was a player to get RN because of the Conn/Dabo connection and Clemson's willingness to get dirty.
Posted by ipodking
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 7:54 pm to
The paranoia from our fans regarding this kid is crazy
This post was edited on 6/25/12 at 7:55 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 7:55 pm to
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The paranoia from our fans regarding the kid is crazy


You think it's paranoia when the kid has stated publicly that he has abdicated his recruitment to the parent of a current Alabama player?
Posted by Books
BR
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 7:58 pm to
So is the naïveté
Posted by ipodking
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 7:59 pm to
Yep. Just bc the coach will push him towards Bama doesn't mean it's a done deal. Everyone is acting like Les and Frank have no chance to get LF to LSU
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 7:59 pm to
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The paranoia from our fans regarding this kid is crazy



What about my posts are me acting paranoid? I'm simply stating facts concerning the coaches at St. Aug who magically appeared on the scene as soon as it was time for Fournette to start really thinking about where he would go to college. The guys I listed are not in our corner, period. If that makes me "paranoid" so be it. None of this strikes you as odd?
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 8:01 pm to
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Yep. Just bc the coach will push him towards Bama doesn't mean it's a done deal. Everyone is acting like Les and Frank have no chance to get LF to LSU


do you know what abdicate means? It doesn't look good for us no matter how you spin it. And there is nothing on the level about any of it.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 8:02 pm to
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Yep. Just bc the coach will push him towards Bama doesn't mean it's a done deal.

I don't think you understand what I said. It's not about being pushed a certain way. Crutchfield is handling his recruitment. That means, you have to go through him to get to the kid. He's scheduling his camps, his visits, and probably the daily Skype conversations with Saban. It's real easy to lose a piece of mail or forget about a phone call.

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Everyone is acting like Les and Frank have no chance to get LF to LSU

No, I think we're appropriately assessing the uphill climb we've got ahead of us.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 8:03 pm to
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do you know what abdicate means?

clearly he does not.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 8:05 pm to
This isn't paranoia. This is just the shadyness of college football recruiting happening right under our nose and there is nothing we can do about it, because, technically, they're not actually doing anything wrong.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 8:06 pm to
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. Right now, with the group of people around him at St. Aug on a daily basis, I don't think he'll have a very objective view of the process.


Again, I'll concede all of that, but he's not going to be locked in a cage with only Crutchflied and Holmes as contacts. He's friends with 2 current LSU players, Wilson has allies at St Aug and you have to think Mathieu's success is a big deal there. He will have plenty of pro LSU people in his ear.

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Just noting that sylve is at Bama and his step father is at St. Aug. Just another guy in their corner. It's shady what they're doing there


I understand that the coaches step son plays for Bama, but you were impling they lied to that kid about what position he'd play., doing a bait and switch on him. That's a lot easier to do with the #14 player at his position and #122 overall than it is with the #1 player at his position and #4 overall player. From what the St Aug people say, the kid wants to play and is working on improving as a RB. I'd have a hard time believing that he'd just go to Bama because his coach says so, then change position with out a peep.
Posted by ipodking
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 8:07 pm to
I've read the kids quotes about crutch handling his recruitment but if he completely shuts out LSU he he won't last very long at that school.
Posted by Cadello
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 8:12 pm to
If anyone here thinks the loss of one recruit will severely impact LSU, then they are stupid, especially at the RB position.

LSU is going to be alright.....
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 8:12 pm to
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I understand that the coaches step son plays for Bama, but you were impling they lied to that kid about what position he'd play., doing a bait and switch on him.


I would normally agree with you but considering where they stand with the other top running back in their backyard, nothing would surprise me.

The fact they're basically leading at this point should tell us all we need to know about how this is shaping up for us and them. It's not good.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 8:13 pm to
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If anyone here thinks the loss of one recruit will severely impact LSU, then they are stupid, especially at the RB position.

LSU is going to be alright.....



Who said we wouldn't be alright? Voicing our displeasure over one of the better instate players and the coaches at his high school helping push him to Alabama and/or Texas is permissible conversation on the recruiting board.
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