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re: Dexter Pratt

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Posted by Stagg8
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Posted on 1/17/09 at 4:22 pm to
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especially since he has had injury issues in the past


Not major injuries... this is like NFL scouts that said AD was injury prone coming out of OU.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/17/09 at 4:23 pm to
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I like the idea in principle, but do you take the risk of ruffling several scholarship players, plus future recruits feathers for that?

i'm not talking about using it as our main offense. something to use 10 times a game or so, maybe more if it's working

i don't think a john williams or jerad mitchell would mind getting more PT while playing option QB

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/17/09 at 4:24 pm to
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I seem to remember lots of picks outta the spread

a good # of picks, but we moved the ball and scored also, which was better than our offense doing nothing in les ball
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
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Posted on 1/17/09 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

i'm not "Worried" about the RB position, but with keiland/scott/murphy getting up there, we haven't really replaced them (Due to depth). you can't say that we are deep at RB going into 2010 without pratt or michael



Well, Murphy will be a senior. I think we can see his athleticism and what not... but sometimes it just takes players longer to put it all together.

Ridley will be there.
Ford.

Calhoun/maybe J .Williams.

That's 4 maybe 5 guys.

Throw in Singleton. Seastrunk and another freshman.

We're up around 5-6.

I guess I don't see it.
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
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Posted on 1/17/09 at 4:24 pm to
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I seem to remember lots of picks outta the spread


I seem to remember he just sucked most of the time.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
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Posted on 1/17/09 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

i'm not talking about using it as our main offense. something to use 10 times a game or so, maybe more if it's working

i don't think a john williams or jerad mitchell would mind getting more PT while playing option QB



Oh, gotcha. Well then, yeah, of course.

I thought you were talking about whole sale offensive overhaul
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
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Posted on 1/17/09 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

i'm not talking about using it as our main offense. something to use 10 times a game or so, maybe more if it's working

i don't think a john williams or jerad mitchell would mind getting more PT while playing option QB


I wouldn't even need the squad to get that "creative." I would just like to have seen some more simple stuff like putting Scott at FB and KW at tailback in the I-formation. Hell, we saw it for one half of one game... it was unstoppable, and then we just decided that it was too easy I guess?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/17/09 at 4:25 pm to
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but sometimes it just takes players longer to put it all together.

if he weren't a RB or DT, i wouldn't be critical

those positions = easy transition if you have the physical tools to play

quote:

Throw in Singleton. Seastrunk and another freshman.

i'm not accepting seastrunk as a RB at LSU until he signs his papers AND makes it to campus
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/17/09 at 4:26 pm to
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I thought you were talking about whole sale offensive overhaul

naw, esp with a spread OC running the show

but it's something that would have helped and couldn't have hurt
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/17/09 at 4:26 pm to
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I wouldn't even need the squad to get that "creative." I would just like to have seen some more simple stuff like putting Scott at FB and KW at tailback in the I-formation. Hell, we saw it for one half of one game... it was unstoppable, and then we just decided that it was too easy I guess?

biggest problem crowton's had at LSU
Posted by Derby Tigah
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Posted on 1/17/09 at 4:27 pm to
switching to he option would have been dumb...would have ben a step backwards for the program

I want to go the opposite way and see Crowton opn it up.. JJ/RS at QB, a single back or even an empty backfield much of the time, 3-4 WRs or gadget players always on the field spreading out every inch of the field
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/17/09 at 4:28 pm to
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would have ben a step backwards for the program

the option is vogue right now. i don't see how it's a step "back"
Posted by Derby Tigah
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Posted on 1/17/09 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

lee didn't look that bad when we were running spread

lee looked horrible when we went into les ball


blame Les for Lee sucking..nice

You were on that early Jarrett Lee bandwagon and just cannot fully admit that he was a lost deer in the headlights
Posted by Derby Tigah
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Posted on 1/17/09 at 4:30 pm to
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ot an every down RB, Derbs. But we can't have all 230 lb slow running backs.


TR is an every down RB with plenty of speed... I think Lache will also be one who will be able to handle a high carry count
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/17/09 at 4:31 pm to
I just hope Jefferson continues to work on his mechanics. Anyone who watched him in high school and then again this year knows that he looked almost like a completely different quarterback. If he can resist the urge to be complacent, I think he could be a very solid QB next year with the ability to make plays and not just be a "game manager."
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/17/09 at 4:32 pm to
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blame Les for Lee sucking..nice

i'm not putting the blame anywhere. just saying lee was much less effective as a QB when we went into les ball

quote:

You were on that early Jarrett Lee bandwagon

he was a surprise and has gotten far too much shite

quote:

and just cannot fully admit that he was a lost deer in the headlights

who denies this?

the question is if he was our best option, and he was. hatch was horrible and JJ was even further behind lee
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/17/09 at 4:34 pm to
i have no doubt that JJ will be a player

we haven't had a manager at QB for long stretches (hatch was a manager) since the 90s
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/17/09 at 4:35 pm to
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if he weren't a RB or DT, i wouldn't be critical

those positions = easy transition if you have the physical tools to play


Yeah, I know. But every player is different... I'm just not ready to wholesale give up on him when it's obvious he has ability. Some RBs really need lots of carries to develop rhythm too.

quote:

i'm not accepting seastrunk as a RB at LSU until he signs his papers AND makes it to campus


Well, obviously. But we're still going to get someone.

If not LS, then maybe Marcus Lattimore out of SC.

I just think there are lots of options and lots of talents... and it will be attractive to players considering the way we run the ball.
Posted by Derby Tigah
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Posted on 1/17/09 at 4:36 pm to
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the option is vogue right now. i don't see how it's a step "back"


LSU showed that superior athletes can shut it down... it is obsolete hence why less teams are running it nowadays

Any time you confine your team in space like the option does it can be shut down more easily than using the entire field to your advantage and putting playmakers in space

Florida has figured it out... they should be the model of what the modern day offense should be... even Pro-Style attacks like when JaMarcus was here, or OU and USC this year, are what offense should be in today's landscape
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13407 posts
Posted on 1/17/09 at 4:36 pm to
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we haven't had a manager at QB for long stretches (hatch was a manager) since the 90s


Mauck comes real close to that moniker.
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