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re: Delino Deshields Jr.

Posted on 6/9/10 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by ConfederateTiger
Louisiana, C.S.A.
Member since Feb 2010
275 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 3:38 pm to
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Guess I should of stayed in school to get that art history degree, or music degree, or any other useless degree in the real world.


Thanks; you're helping me make my point. What is it that makes a degree--e.g. "art history"--useless as you say? That degree means that you have met the requirements of study and can show competence and comprehension in a liberal arts subject at the college level: certainly worthwhile and a thing of which to be proud. I get the impression that you believe it to be "useless" because it doesn't necessarily transfer to a high-paying, 9-to-5 corporate job. Nothing could be further from the truth. How sad is it that you, and the many, MANY like you, have no other barometer besides the accumulation of wealth to judge the value of a life? My grandfather died a miserable bastard with millions in the bank; he didn't have the capacity to appreciate anything beyond the visceral. How much foie gras and caviar can one eat? How much XO cognac can one drink? How many cars, jets, women, etc, etc, can one "own" before the pleasure of those things evaporates? It is impossible to fill the internal abyss with what mere riches can purchase. I realize we've strayed far from the original subject of "teenagers decisions about their futures," but the below demands a final comment.

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But I took the money and played ball instead, this makes me uneducated?


Yes. One who lacks an education can certainly be referred to as "uneducated."
Posted by glaucon
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2008
5292 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 3:47 pm to
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Thanks; you're helping me make my point. What is it that makes a degree--e.g. "art history"--useless as you say? That degree means that you have met the requirements of study and can show competence and comprehension in a liberal arts subject at the college level: certainly worthwhile and a thing of which to be proud. I get the impression that you believe it to be "useless" because it doesn't necessarily transfer to a high-paying, 9-to-5 corporate job. Nothing could be further from the truth. How sad is it that you, and the many, MANY like you, have no other barometer besides the accumulation of wealth to judge the value of a life? My grandfather died a miserable bastard with millions in the bank; he didn't have the capacity to appreciate anything beyond the visceral. How much foie gras and caviar can one eat? How much XO cognac can one drink? How many cars, jets, women, etc, etc, can one "own" before the pleasure of those things evaporates? It is impossible to fill the internal abyss with what mere riches can purchase. I realize we've strayed far from the original subject of "teenagers decisions about their futures," but the below demands a final comment.




The whole problem with your argument is that the two things are not mutually exclusive. You can play ball and still get a college education. I am not arguing that money is the be all and end all of existence. It is just damn convenient. If you can get the money, play professional baseball (which by the way is pretty damn cool in and of itself), and get a college education, it seems to me that the optimal choice is to take the money when it is offered at 18.
Posted by ConfederateTiger
Louisiana, C.S.A.
Member since Feb 2010
275 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 4:09 pm to
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The whole problem with your argument is that the two things are not mutually exclusive. You can play ball and still get a college education. I am not arguing that money is the be all and end all of existence. It is just damn convenient. If you can get the money, play professional baseball (which by the way is pretty damn cool in and of itself), and get a college education, it seems to me that the optimal choice is to take the money when it is offered at 18.


And in a perfect world, you're 100% correct. The point I was making earlier (maybe in another thread?) was that in the majority of cases, young men who eschew college for a big-money pro contract rarely ever make it back to get that education after they've "retired" in their late 20s or 30s. It most certainly can be done, but it isn't very often. I imagine it would be difficult for a once-famous ex-jock at 31 to sit in Dr. Eubanks' POLI-1001 class full of 17- and 18-year-old freshmen, right? After all the adulation associated with being an MLB (or less) pitcher, being just "the old guy in back" who's having trouble taking notes would be rather soul-crushing. Whatever the reason, I'm guessing that it just doesn't happen that often.
Posted by glaucon
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2008
5292 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 4:39 pm to
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And in a perfect world, you're 100% correct. The point I was making earlier (maybe in another thread?) was that in the majority of cases, young men who eschew college for a big-money pro contract rarely ever make it back to get that education after they've "retired" in their late 20s or 30s. It most certainly can be done, but it isn't very often. I imagine it would be difficult for a once-famous ex-jock at 31 to sit in Dr. Eubanks' POLI-1001 class full of 17- and 18-year-old freshmen, right? After all the adulation associated with being an MLB (or less) pitcher, being just "the old guy in back" who's having trouble taking notes would be rather soul-crushing. Whatever the reason, I'm guessing that it just doesn't happen that often.


Impossible as Eubanks retired but I get your point.

The problem through is that the rational decision for just about every individual drafted in the first round is to take the money. You can bemoan the system but you can't be pissed about a kid making a decision that given the circumstances is in his best interest.
Posted by ConfederateTiger
Louisiana, C.S.A.
Member since Feb 2010
275 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 5:32 pm to
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Impossible as Eubanks retired but I get your point.


Dr. Cecil L. Eubanks has NOT retired from LSU. He was a member of my Committee just this past semester when I was taking my Comprehensive Exams to finish my Ph.D.
Posted by thebigtiger
Member since Jun 2010
44 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 6:08 pm to
i hearing out of houston a 6 million signing bonus
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288182 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 6:20 pm to
6 mil is top 3-4 pick money

no way he gets that
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