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re: Current depth is playing a roll, especially OOS...

Posted on 1/21/12 at 9:10 pm to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60944 posts
Posted on 1/21/12 at 9:10 pm to
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Then you don't understand recruiting.


We understand, you are just trying to rationalize by making up a theory that is completely without merit and has been proven wrong over and over again and not just by Alabama recently.

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Saban is the best in the business, but he got that way by being as deceptive as they come. There's no other way to explain him signing almost 30 kids a year, and then cutting the ones who don't work out.




OK, whatever helps you sleep better. I mean he can't be the best because he's a great coach and sends guys to the pros or anything.

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we're going to clean house next year, and guess why? Because half the damn team will probably declare for the draft, leaving starting roles up for grabs.


The delusion is complete. Now can you explain how LSU had 3 great classes in row from 2009-2011? If your theory had any merit what so ever, there is no way LSU should have signed Anthony Johnson.

If LSU get a great class next year it will be because the coaches did a great job or because its a banner year in La like 2011, nothing more.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
18188 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 9:03 am to
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We understand, you are just trying to rationalize by making up a theory that is completely without merit and has been proven wrong over and over again and not just by Alabama recently.


I was the first to say that Alabama was an exception, because they've had great success as a program both on the field and with putting players in the NFL.

You've turned this into a pissing match, but I didn't set out to prove anything. Every recruit is different, and my main focus was on top tier OOS recruits.

But, if you're going to throw the word proof around, at least don't bring up guys that support what I'm saying.

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The delusion is complete. Now can you explain how LSU had 3 great classes in row from 2009-2011? If your theory had any merit what so ever, there is no way LSU should have signed Anthony Johnson.


Ever hear of Drake Nevis and Pep Levingston? They were the established, proven depth the year AJ signed. And guess what? A year after both proven players left, AJ cracked the rotation, because the guys behind those two weren't entrenched at the position.

Stringing together 3 great classes is hard, but without some severe busts nestled in, it's even harder to get the fourth one. Again, this is not scientific fact, just a casual observation. You've used the word delusional a few times, but you haven't provided even one example where a five star player signed with a school and waited two full years to see the field. Hell, even getting them to red shirt is taboo.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60944 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:12 am to
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But, if you're going to throw the word proof around, at least don't bring up guys that support what I'm saying.


I can't support what you are saying because what you are saying is false, you should trying READING the sentence of mine you quoted.

I will highlight the key phrase

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and not just by Alabama recently.


"not just by" means other schools besides Alabama have proven your stupid theory wrong.

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Ever hear of Drake Nevis and Pep Levingston? They were the established, proven depth the year AJ signed. And guess what? A year after both proven players left, AJ cracked the rotation, because the guys behind those two weren't entrenched at the position.


so why did Brockers and other sign the years before? You are really just proving what we are saying. Outside of QB, not position on the football field has 1 or 2 guys so "entrenched" that no one else will see the field for 2 plus years.

But do explain why Jeremy Hill signed with established depth we have at RB that are all Soph and Fr?

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You've used the word delusional a few times, but you haven't provided even one example where a five star player signed with a school and waited two full years to see the field


I've used delusional because you guys are just trying to make excuses for a less that stellar class, though it may turn out ok.

And I can't give you examples that don't exist. That's the whole point. 5 star players will see the field early, no matter where they go, with again the possible exception of QB. So the idea that they avoid 1 school because of other star players is nonsense.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
18188 posts
Posted on 1/22/12 at 11:59 am to
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I can't support what you are saying because what you are saying is false, you should trying READING the sentence of mine you quoted.



Yet you can't show me a single 5 star that's waited two years to play.

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"not just by" means other schools besides Alabama have proven your stupid theory wrong.


Again, you're taking what I'm saying as an absolute to make yourself feel right, but you still can't show me a school that has proven two deep talent, that has already seen playing time, coming back for multiple years like we do who's signing a blue chip at that spot. I'm sure it's out there, but it's hilarious you can't show me one.

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so why did Brockers and other sign the years before? You are really just proving what we are saying. Outside of QB, not position on the football field has 1 or 2 guys so "entrenched" that no one else will see the field for 2 plus years.

But do explain why Jeremy Hill signed with established depth we have at RB that are all Soph and Fr?



Micheal Brockers was a great pull, but he was not the five-star elite prospect we've been discussing. He agreed to red shirt because he wasn't extremely worried about playing right away, but thanks again for proving me right. Hill signed, because like I said early LSU has a track record for getting RBs on the field early, either at FB or in rotation at TB.

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And I can't give you examples that don't exist. That's the whole point. 5 star players will see the field early, no matter where they go, with again the possible exception of QB. So the idea that they avoid 1 school because of other star players is nonsense.


Now the story changes!

Lord man, lighten up. I'm not giving a lecture here, just putting in my two cents as to why we're not in it for more of the all american OOS mercenary types this year. If a kid really buys the sales pitch, he'll come no matter what depth is here, but you can't argue that the depth chart doesn't play a role.
Posted by JTacoma03
Baton Rouge/San Francisco
Member since Sep 2009
384 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 12:07 pm to
Can I ask an honest question?

Why does everyone care so much about our recruiting class rankings? What does it prove?
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