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re: Class ranking now?

Posted on 12/23/17 at 6:39 pm to
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
13628 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 6:39 pm to
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I’d take our class all day over Texas’s class. That’s not a knock on the players they have committed but the positions. If LSU had 3 linemen combined committed we’d be in deep shite.


Texas was in a similar position as LSU, but in many ways their class is kind of the opposite. Highly ranked, but didn’t fill many needs, except they were desperate for Corner Backs.

Herman did get almost all of the top prospects in the state. Last year almost all left Texas. Next year will be a better indicator about Herman, both on the field and recruiting. He will end up with a great class this year, especially in the secondary, but he lost a bunch of recruiting battles in the trenches, both in Texas and nationwide.

Texas desperately wanted Chasen Hines and Traore this year. A&M has only signed 10 players, but 5 are linemen. Texas is a great state for 7on7 skill players, and Herman is taking advantage of that, but he has got to start winning OL and Defensive front 7 recruiting battles.
Posted by gemlsu
Member since Sep 2003
2390 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 6:46 pm to
Love our class.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 12:00 am to
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funny thing is that the football people at Texas see this glaring weakness too


I've never seen a fanbase more bummed out over a top 3 recruiting class. They are smart enough to realize that with all of their offensive linemen declaring for the draft or transferring and having absolutely nothing to replace them with. They are HOPING for 6 wins again next year. Hoping for 6 wins. That's what Tom Herman has provided the once proud UT program.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23587 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 12:06 am to
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I've never seen a fanbase more bummed out over a top 3 recruiting class


Its pretty embarrassing actually. Their fan base can look at their recruiting class and see that it doesn't fulfill the needs to make them successful. They would probably trade classes with LSU in a heart beat.

On the other hand, a large portion of our fan base would also trade classes with UT in a heart beat. "#3 class. All those stars....oh my."

Then when we would consistently lose games because we are getting punished in the trenches people would want every coach fired.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 12:09 am to
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How are rankings done? Are they based solely on star power, or do they take in account your needs at positions filled?


Stars only. Too much involved to calculate the needs of every team and if they met them. I wouldn't trust their ability to do so even if they tried. They don't have time to evaluate every player that is signed by a 1-A school, much less based on a team's needs at certain positions.
Posted by Dlab2013
Pineville, Luzianna
Member since Jun 2013
9219 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 12:30 am to
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Jesus Christ. The kids are out in force. Probably not a swinging dick even knows what Texas got in their class by position. Lsu is top 10 in a very down year for Louisiana and we are bringing in a class that is finally addressing needs in the trenches, plus some great skill players, and we still have ignorant mfs wishing we had landed Herman, despite his record, despite the turmoil happening there....they just like those stars mane


This class will prove itself in 2019 when LSU absolutely DESTROYS Texas. It won’t even be close. LSU will bulldoze those weak pussies on both sides of the line for 4 quarters. Pay attention, go look at all the kids jumping ship over there......look at Herman failing to flip kids from Kansas and failing on 5 different JUCO linemen, including Traore........

I’ll take this class over Texas’ class any day...... Can’t wait to crush them in 2019 AND 2020
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 12:44 am to
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It won’t even be close. LSU will bulldoze those weak pussies on both sides of the line for 4 quarters. Pay attention, go look at all the kids jumping ship over there......look at Herman failing to flip kids from Kansas and failing on 5 different JUCO linemen, including Traore........

I’ll take this class over Texas’ class any day...... Can’t wait to crush them in 2019 AND 2020


There was actually a Texas fan that posted in the Badara Traore Herman thread that said Herm may not even be their coach when we play them in 2019. That's how bad it is in Austin. They miss Strong and they just fired him.

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/lsu-recruiting/tom-herman-to-visit-badara-traore---trying-to-pry-him-from-coach-eaux/74016878/#top

Go to the bottom of the first page for the Texas fan's perspective.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
160418 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 12:47 am to
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There was actually a Texas fan that posted in the Badara Traore Herman thread that said Herm may not even be their coach when we play them in 2019. That's how bad it is in Austin. They miss Strong and they just fired him.



You’re such a lying, dishonest piece of fricking shite. Ohhh hey take the opinion of one UT fan and use it as evidence that all UT fans feel that way. Anytime someone here speaks out on O though.....

Reeeeeeeeetarded
Posted by Dlab2013
Pineville, Luzianna
Member since Jun 2013
9219 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 12:55 am to
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You’re such a lying, dishonest piece of fricking shite. Ohhh hey take the opinion of one UT fan and use it as evidence that all UT fans feel that way. Anytime someone here speaks out on O though.....



Ahhhh, seriously bro, go lurk their 247 vip board..... their not impressed at all, and know that their class ranking is a “paper tiger” so to speak. Kids are leaving their program in droves...... lots of issues on the 40 acres....... Herman will be fired in the next 2 years the way it’s going over there
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 1:30 am to
NO if they signed all 5* wrs and Db’s it would
Be number 1
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
20351 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 2:38 am to
Just read that Chip Brown write-up that was deleted. Texas has a real bad situation brewing right now and I think the bowl game will make things worst.

More players suspended and rumored to be transferring.LINK
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 8:08 am to
Herman doing work, at least one of those kids would be LSU bound most years
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 8:09 am to
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 8:11 am to
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You’re such a lying, dishonest piece of fricking shite. Ohhh hey take the opinion of one UT fan and use it as evidence that all UT fans feel that way. Anytime someone here speaks out on O though..... Reeeeeeeeetarded
yep several family members of mine are huge texas fans and my uncle is alumni and a donor to the school and they are pleased with herman. They understood he took over a dumpster fire and hes having to build the program back up. Ree is a fricking idiot who slobs orgerons knob at every turn.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 8:35 am to
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Ohhh hey take the opinion of one UT fan and use it as evidence


Well that was the only evidence I knew of from this board. There are a lot more than one fan on Shaggy Texas that feels that way.

They don't have the ridiculous personal hatred for their coach like idiot LSU fans. They are just depressed and realize that the team is bailing on their coach and he is not replacing the most important components.

quote:

Turns out you need actual coaching with game plans and blocking schemes and protections that make sense. I'd bail on this $#@!ing coaching staff too.

quote:

Jesus - that is terrible. Only 3 guys (Vahe, Shack, and Kerstetter) that will be here have any significant playing time at all and none of those are that great. I wonder if Herm still thinks this is a strength of the team.

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What's really bumming me out is right now I am failing to see how we get more than 6 wins next year with the OL we will have in place in 2018. Worse, I'm not sure we can recruit our way into a cure until maybe 2019. I'm usually a huge optimist and at the beginning of the year I thought 8 wins was about right, after spring OL attrition I was thinking more likely 7 with almost no chance of only 6 wins.


https://www.shaggytexas.com/board/showthread.php/163584-Texas-O-line/page32
Posted by mtheob17
Charleston, SC
Member since Sep 2009
5434 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 8:39 am to
When Surtain, Chase and Joseph sign, we’ll be in the top 6-8 with one signee to go.
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 10:26 am to
tell me how i am wrong? you are clueless.
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 10:27 am to
what do they mean?
Posted by Nomojeaux
Member since Dec 2017
959 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:49 am to
Tiger ree you done messed up and doubted billj's hero, Herman. He is on full tilt in this thread defending Herman and bashing o
This post was edited on 12/24/17 at 11:53 am
Posted by SOL
Garland, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2950 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 4:29 am to
Strong's guys are leaving
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