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re: Blake Ivy

Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:25 am to
Posted by Tigerguru96
Member since Nov 2018
926 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:25 am to
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He was always considered a strong Aggy lean.

Yes
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LSU as a possibility wasn’t even mentioned until 2-3 days ago

Nah it’s been an lsu-a&m battle for a while now
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
6167 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:26 am to
Post it my man, this place is always full of idiots, let the sensible guys indulge and the idiots cypher it like idiots do. We appreciate good info
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5623 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:28 am to
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League City is south of Houston and about 2 hours from College State. They don't have any unbreakable ties to Aggieland


His school/community is known as favoring A&M
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5623 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:29 am to
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Yup, he’s gone. We stick to our three stars


We have a 73% blue chip ratio for this class right now
But yea nothing but 3 stars
Posted by RUKIDDINGME
Conroe, TX
Member since Nov 2018
2552 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:37 am to
This commitment is not that concerning. He has been an A&M lean from the beginning. As I stated before, LSU was used to drive the price up. The concern would be if we do not close on McKinley. Even though schools like Texas will drive the price up we have to give the bag to close on the #1 player in our state at a position of need.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
22186 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:40 am to
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And the gif of a young K. Swanson brings back some memories for me


Completely off topic, but I looked her up to see how she looks today. Never knee she did noods 20 years ago.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
11476 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:49 am to
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Not on OL or QB Rankings matter way less than skill positions or LB

This is just 100% false. Rankings matter at every position, with QB being most important. Why would schools fight over Trevor Lawrence, Bryce Young, and Caleb Williams if they didn’t matter? It’s tough to project how guys will develop which is how rankings miss at times, but to say they don’t matter is foolish.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5623 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 12:20 pm to
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This is just 100% false. Rankings matter at every position, with QB being most important. Why would schools fight over Trevor Lawrence, Bryce Young, and Caleb Williams if they didn’t matter? It’s tough to project how guys will develop which is how rankings miss at times, but to say they don’t matter is foolish


Look at the draft rankings and where they ranked in HS

Yea Bryce young lived up to his ranking but he won 0 championships as a starter
Look at the Qb rankings that year - 3 of the top 20 have panned out
That’s a horrible ratio
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
11476 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 12:29 pm to
Which is why it’s so important to get one of the top ranked guys. You have almost zero chance to win a title if you don’t have an elite QB. By your argument, everyone should just disregard the rankings and go after 2 and 3 star guys.
Posted by LSU1215
Monroe
Member since Aug 2009
4259 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 12:53 pm to
Georgia Bennet says Hello! Having a QB helps don't get me wrong but if you are loaded all over I think you will be ok.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
11476 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 12:57 pm to
Stetson Bennett was a big reason Georgia won a natty last year. This narrative that they won in spite of him is silly. He’s so bad that he’s going to be on an NFL roster this year.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5623 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 1:01 pm to
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Which is why it’s so important to get one of the top ranked guys. You have almost zero chance to win a title if you don’t have an elite QB. By your argument, everyone should just disregard the rankings and go after 2 and 3 star guys.


At Qb there is just as much chance of the top ranked being a bust as a 3 star guy being good

The best thing at Qb is going after who you as a coaching staff is going to develop the best and fits your offense/program the best

Have you watched LSU football for the last 15 years? How many 4 stars we had that were bust because they didn’t fit our offense or were just plain overrated
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5623 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 1:02 pm to
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Stetson Bennett was a big reason Georgia won a natty last year. This narrative that they won in spite of him is silly. He’s so bad that he’s going to be on an NFL roster this year.


He was also a 0 star Qb coming out of HS

Kirby saw his talent coming out of juco as a 2 star and got him
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
11476 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 1:10 pm to
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How many 4 stars we had that were bust because they didn’t fit our offense or were just plain overrated

What QB can succeed in a Les Miles offense where everything you do is easily schemed and predicted by the defense? Les may be the worst QB developer in the history of the SEC.

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The best thing at Qb is going after who you as a coaching staff is going to develop the best and fits your offense/program the best

Agreed
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
11476 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 1:12 pm to
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Kirby saw his talent coming out of juco as a 2 star and got him

He walked on and Kirby thought he would never play so he left to go play juco. Kirby didn’t even want to play him when he came back the 2nd time. It just happened to work out for Bennett more so than Kirby seeing something in him.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13092 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 1:15 pm to
Without looking I'd bet blindly that all positions would have around the same percentage(far, far less than 50%, probably even 25%) of hits/misses. You're using selective reasoning based on an incomplete set of facts. It's truly very simple, not all 5 and 4* kids pan out. Not all 3* are bums. However, having more of the former on your roster to develop and pick from is exceedingly more fruitful than a roster full of 3 stars. Google national champs and recruiting rankings and see how they correlate. The anomalies are just that.

Our OL recruiting is fine. Ivy was a want but a bonus. 3 weeks ago he was a hope and prayer. Far different from the true concerning losses such as, Mack, Simmons and likely McKinley. Those were all ones where we were perceived to be in the advantageous position at points, until the reality came to be that Simmons may have been the only one we really had a shot with.

I'm all for development but the adage "Jimmie and joes beat x's and o's" is rooted in some form of fact, as with all stereotypes. Recruiting below standard will lead to a below standard program. Those deemed "cinderellas" are celebrated for a reason. They aren't the standard for the arena they're playing in. They tend to disappear quickly and quietly. I get it, some of us have a different standard we hope to achieve. If we all had the same, there'd be less of these debates of how we can build greatness using below standard tools.

Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
7021 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 1:36 pm to
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Yup, he’s gone. We stick to our three stars


This is such nonsense. We must be the most successful 3 star recruit school in the history of sports. You can’t really be an LSU fan. It’s almost too dumb. Think about that.
Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
7021 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 1:43 pm to
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Google national champs and recruiting rankings and see how they correlate. The anomalies are just that.


I don’t necessarily mean this about you but I’m just going to say that what Bama has done in recruiting over the last 15 years or so has broken a bunch of you mentally. It has kind of warped not only your expectations of how we need to recruit STRICTLY ON PAPER to have success, but also your perception of the value of these kids without knowing anything about them. I get caught up in it too sometimes but according g to you we are the anomaly. Look at our championship teams. How many anomalies does it take to not be an anomaly anymore?
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5623 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 1:53 pm to
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Without looking I'd bet blindly that all positions would have around the same percentage(far, far less than 50%, probably even 25%) of hits/misses


Bet you it’s not
QBs and Linemen have the most

RBs have the least
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
4064 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 2:49 pm to
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When does he announce so I can call you a hero or request for you to be banned


Ban him !!
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