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Are we recruiting any juco offensive tackles this year?

Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:24 am
Posted by saturncube21
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:24 am
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Posted by wheelz007
Denham Springs, LA
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:59 am to
We will have 16 or 17 OLinemen on scholarship next year.

At least 6 will be tackles, maybe more.

Charles
Deculous
Traore
Rosenthal
Wire
Perry - the recruit

Savage is listed at 6'6 and that's tackle size, so... he would be #7 on the roster.

Posted by BentonTiger7
Benton, LA
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 11:55 am to
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At least 6 will be tackles, maybe more.


How many will be dominant pass blocking tackles by NEXT YEAR?
Posted by Superbonics
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 12:09 pm to
Because last year's #1 JUCO tackle has had such a good year?
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 12:26 pm to
Charles is a converted guard.

Deculus has a lot of work to do before he could ever be considered a decent tackle.

Rosenthal will be starting left tackle.
Posted by Insanity Reigns
Fairhope, Alabama
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 12:36 pm to
Can add Ray Parker to that list.
Posted by I20goon
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:12 pm to
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Can add Ray Parker to that list.
Indeed! Glad he's onboard.

And I have hopes for Wire, but with Rosenthal in the mix next year it's going to be tough.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:20 pm to
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And I have hopes for Wire, but with Rosenthal in the mix next year it's going to be tough


Do you think that Deculus can hang on at right tackle or will he be moved to guard?

Also was the problem that these young guys got thrown into the fire before they were ready? If this is the case which I tend to believe I can't be too hard on their play.
Posted by I20goon
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 5:05 pm to
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Do you think that Deculus can hang on at right tackle or will he be moved to guard?
Firstly, I think that Deculus is progressing nicely. He gets better with every rep.

Secondly, it will be hard for him to hang on IF Rosenthal reaches his full potential. His upside is huge.

Thirdly, it will be hard for Rosenthal to get there with no game reps.

Deculus will at least start the year at RT (barring Magee gets it in gear or Traore fixes a bunch of things).
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Also was the problem that these young guys got thrown into the fire before they were ready?
yeah, they did. But that's what was needed. It's not like we had a choice, but they needed reps- practice and games. It's the you take your good with your bad.
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If this is the case which I tend to believe I can't be too hard on their play.
eh, if they weren't progressing then should be hard on them. But they are. Be very critical, just temper expectations.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 5:53 pm to
I always figured Rosenthal for left tackle and Charles for right tackle. I guess Deculus could back them up.

If Kardell lost weight with his height issues is he more of a natural center?
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 6:00 pm to
Tramonde Moore was actually just dismissed from OU.
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Because last year's #1 JUCO tackle has had such a good year?


Posted by RichardT
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 6:17 pm to
The answer to this question is no.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:17 pm to
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Savage is listed at 6'6 and that's tackle size


Meh. It's presumptive tackle "size" - but tackle is more about overall length, arm length and foot speed. You can make a great tackle into a good guard fairly easily. It's much tougher to convert a monster guard into an above average tackle.

Just ask LSU - they've been trying to do the latter for decades to minimal success.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:24 pm to
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If Kardell lost weight with his height issues is he more of a natural center?




Have you seen pictures of Kardell Thomas ... at all?

Big Boy is closer to being a natural 400 pound man than a 300 pound man. And he is very agile at that size. He is the most natural offensive guard you ever saw in your life coming out of high school. Essentially a bigger framed Herman Johnson, but no height because he has no neck - his massive noggin (and I bet he wears a size 8 1/4 hat) is just directly attached to his shoulders.

I bet he wears a size 58 or 60 coat. Kardell Thomas is one of the biggest frame 18-year olds you ever saw in your life.
Posted by I20goon
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Posted on 11/16/18 at 6:18 am to
lol, all true Ace... all of it.

I will say this, for his size and frame Kardell moves exceptionally well. If he had more length what could've been. I'll also note he has some of the best technique, especially hands, that I've ever seen in a high schooler. He's light years ahead of your average OG walking through the doors for the first time. Not just a little, a lot.

As for Kardell at C... I have no doubt they'll at least try him as the backup OG-to-C. Make calls (yeah, no go for freshmen) and snap (under center, pistol, shotgun- you don't know until you try) and the two things that make a C instead of an OG.

But when you move that way, with that frame, with Davis and Emery, every offensive coach is dreaming of counters. Pulling guards has been an issue for us this year (some of it on the RBs). Kardell moves so well it's hard not to think of that.
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