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Planting blueberry bushes near wall
Posted on 5/5/22 at 5:36 am
Posted on 5/5/22 at 5:36 am
In Lake Charles. My neighbors have a section of brick fence, about 6 ft tall, that runs adjacent to part of my property. I wanted to use this part to plant some blueberry bushes but saw mixed reviews online on how well they would do without full on sunlight.
Wondering if anyone had any experience, thanks
Wondering if anyone had any experience, thanks
Posted on 5/5/22 at 6:22 am to Geaux_Le_Tigre
They require an acidic soil to survive. If your soil isn’t acidic don’t waste your time.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 6:48 am to Wolfmanjack
They will need an acidic soil to take in nutrients and they are the require a lot of sunlight. At least 8 hours worth in a day. Otherwise, they won't grow much and ever put out plenty of fruit.
Also, a Blueberry bush is is a long term investment. They take a while to get to a decent size. The first two or 3 years, you also want to pluck off the fruit buds early in the season so the plants put all of the energy into bushing out and growing to a decent size. I didn't start harvesting berries from mine until year 3.
You will also need at least two different types so they can pollinate correctly. If you are looking for a berry plant to plant next to a fence that does not require an acidic mix and is a little more forgiving, Honeyberry plants are a good choice.
Also, a Blueberry bush is is a long term investment. They take a while to get to a decent size. The first two or 3 years, you also want to pluck off the fruit buds early in the season so the plants put all of the energy into bushing out and growing to a decent size. I didn't start harvesting berries from mine until year 3.
You will also need at least two different types so they can pollinate correctly. If you are looking for a berry plant to plant next to a fence that does not require an acidic mix and is a little more forgiving, Honeyberry plants are a good choice.
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 6:52 am
Posted on 5/5/22 at 7:36 am to Geaux_Le_Tigre
Depends on the orientation of the fence. If it is running East/West and your blueberries are on the south side then you should be good to go. North side don't do it. If the fence runs North/South then it is possible if you have zero other shade. It wouldn't be ideal though.
You can grow blueberries in the ground just like you grow azaleas. Just use a fertilizer specifically made for acid loving plants. Soil tests will confirm if/when your ph is right.
You can grow blueberries in the ground just like you grow azaleas. Just use a fertilizer specifically made for acid loving plants. Soil tests will confirm if/when your ph is right.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 11:04 am to Geaux_Le_Tigre
We had bushes on the West side of the house I grew up in along the exterior wall. They did alright except for one on the end that was right next to a spigot that always leaked. It was the biggest blueberry bush I've ever seen and it produced a lot of blueberries.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:19 pm to BallsEleven
Wall does run north to south, there is definitely no other shade tho. I may be able to keep them off the wall a couple of feet which may buy a a little more time in the sun.
I have bermuda gras so pH is 6-6.5 if that's acidic enough.
I have bermuda gras so pH is 6-6.5 if that's acidic enough.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:48 pm to Geaux_Le_Tigre
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Wall does run north to south, there is definitely no other shade tho.
Will they be on the west or east side? If on the east side and receiving morning light they should be ok. I've got a blackberry that is in a corner fence area that does just fine.
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I may be able to keep them off the wall a couple of feet which may buy a a little more time in the sun.
Any bit will help.
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I have bermuda gras so pH is 6-6.5 if that's acidic enough.
Ideally you want that down around 5, maybe 5.5. But like I said, there are plenty of ways of bringing ph down.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 3:07 pm to BallsEleven
East side of the wall so should be good there. I'll get some acidic fertilizer as well.
Thank you for all your help!
Thank you for all your help!
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:08 pm to Geaux_Le_Tigre
Amend the soil with peat moss, mix in soil acidifier granules and grab some miracle grow acidifier fertilizer for immediate effect
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:03 pm to Cracker
Do yourself a favor and plant something that actually grows here. Just plat some thornless blackberries.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 6:02 am to Geaux_Le_Tigre
Use 13-13-13 fertilzer. Then add some alumininum sulfate around each plant every spring. It will lower the ph of your soil.
Aluminum Sulfate
Aluminum Sulfate
Posted on 5/6/22 at 7:34 am to humblepie
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Amend the soil with peat moss, mix in soil acidifier granules and grab some miracle grow acidifier fertilizer for immediate effect
Also mix in some fine pine bark mulch in your soil and mulch with it as well. This will help get the soil acidic. Home Depot also sells some really cheap "topsoil" that is really ground up pine material. Very acidic. I mixed one part of that to two parts of existing soil from the area that I planted my plants in and it helped give it an early acidic PH level.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:04 am to Geaux_Le_Tigre
Blueberries need a soil pH of 4.5 to 5.5 to thrive and for berry production. Elemental sulfur is preferable to alum (aluminum sulfate) for your application to lower soil pH because of its long residual time, cost and amount of product required. Repeated use of aluminum sulfate can potentially cause aluminum toxicity to the plants with long term use but it is fine to use it intermittently for a rapid lowering of soil pH.
See table Table 1 in this publication LINK to estimate the amount required. Sulfur additions will needed to be added every year or so, best determined by a soil pH test.
As also mentioned very liberal use of composted forest products (garden centers call it garden soil) and peat moss to lower pH to build the planting beds and promote drainage. Raise the planting bed 6 inches to a foot, blueberries do not like wet feet and are shallow rooted. You want the root system growing in acidic soil.
I grow about 10 blueberry bushes in 30 gallon nursery containers that are 1/2 garden soil (composted forestry products) and 1/2 peat moss mixed together (by volume, not weight) (LSU Ag Center recommendation for container planted blueberries based on research trials at the Hammond Research Station), and they grow well and produce many berries.
As stated, a minimum to 2 varieties for cross pollination. Full sun is always preferable for maximum fruit production for just about all fruit shrubs and trees but you have leeway.
Good luck - I think they are a pretty ornamental shrub in addition to the berry production - plant twice as many as you think you’ll need - as the birds like them too.
See table Table 1 in this publication LINK to estimate the amount required. Sulfur additions will needed to be added every year or so, best determined by a soil pH test.
As also mentioned very liberal use of composted forest products (garden centers call it garden soil) and peat moss to lower pH to build the planting beds and promote drainage. Raise the planting bed 6 inches to a foot, blueberries do not like wet feet and are shallow rooted. You want the root system growing in acidic soil.
I grow about 10 blueberry bushes in 30 gallon nursery containers that are 1/2 garden soil (composted forestry products) and 1/2 peat moss mixed together (by volume, not weight) (LSU Ag Center recommendation for container planted blueberries based on research trials at the Hammond Research Station), and they grow well and produce many berries.
As stated, a minimum to 2 varieties for cross pollination. Full sun is always preferable for maximum fruit production for just about all fruit shrubs and trees but you have leeway.
Good luck - I think they are a pretty ornamental shrub in addition to the berry production - plant twice as many as you think you’ll need - as the birds like them too.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:10 am to CrawDude
A retired botanist advised me to use aluminum sulfate each year when blooms occur. He said you wont hurt the plant by using to much. I place 1 bag around my older plants and 1/2 bag around younger ones each growing season.
Never had any issues other than having more berries than i want to pick. Lol
Never had any issues other than having more berries than i want to pick. Lol
Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:28 am to boudinman
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A retired botanist advised me to use aluminum sulfate each year when blooms occur. He said you wont hurt the plant by using to much. I place 1 bag around my older plants and 1/2 bag around younger ones each growing season. Never had any issues other than having more berries than i want to pick. Lol
Good to know and share your personal experience with this.
ETA: another thing I failed to mention for the OP’s benefit, building next to brick wall with a concrete foundation where will likely be some leaching of higher pH into the surrounding soil from the calcium carbonate minerals in concrete, so management of a lower pH soil for the blueberries becomes potentially even more critical.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 9:37 am
Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:49 am to BayouBengal51
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Also, a Blueberry bush is is a long term investment. They take a while to get to a decent size. The first two or 3 years, you also want to pluck off the fruit buds early in the season so the plants put all of the energy into bushing out and growing to a decent size. I didn't start harvesting berries from mine until year 3.
I've got 2 blueberry bushes. This is Year 3 for one and Year 2 for the other. The one on Year 3 will grow a decent amount of berries but they don't really seem to get ripe; both get full sun most of the day; they are in an area where water might puddle after a big rain. It had never occurred to me that they were too early...you think that could be the issue? I should be picking off those berries? I was thinking I had a soil issue or it was from the puddling of water
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