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re: New Construction Ceiling Height Dilemma
Posted on 11/18/19 at 1:47 pm to DVA Tailgater
Posted on 11/18/19 at 1:47 pm to DVA Tailgater
Go with 12' ceilings, but keep in mind that you may want to fur down some of the smaller rooms - closets, laundry, guest baths etc. 9' precut studs are common, but 11' will have to be cut by framer, every single stud.
With 12' walls, you will want transoms over all doors/windows on the 1st FL, or the windows would be proportionally tiny, even if header height is to match your hopefully 8-0 doors.
With 12' walls, you will want transoms over all doors/windows on the 1st FL, or the windows would be proportionally tiny, even if header height is to match your hopefully 8-0 doors.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 9:31 am to DVA Tailgater
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We want 12’ ceilings in the living room,
You can either go 12' for the entire downstairs, waste lumber to drop the rest of the ceilings downstairs, or waste concrete by raising the rest of the slab 2' and having a "sunken" den. A family member of mine did the sunken den thing, and it looks great, but honestly don't think they would do it again.
Would be much cheaper to do 12' ceilings throughout downstairs. Why would you not just do that?
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:12 am to Putty
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Would be much cheaper to do 12' ceilings throughout downstairs. Why would you not just do that?
Generally, 12' ceilings requires taller doors and windows in order to keep rooms proportionally scaled. So you'll be spending more on every door and window in the whole house....very likely NOT to be cheaper, everything considered, than merely vaulting one or two key rooms.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:36 pm to DVA Tailgater
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the architect says that would require the remainder of the first floor to be 12’ or essentially add more lumber to “lower” the rest of the first floor to 10’.
The ceiling height under your second floor should be the same throughout the first floor, but you can drop the remainder of the first floor to 10’ where you don’t have living space above. For example if your second floor is over the living and kitchen area but not the master, you can have 10’ ceilings in your master. This is of course without seeing you layout but people rarely build a true 2 story home. 1.5 stories is more common which typically allows some variation in the ceiling heights.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:25 pm to Martini
I just built a house with 11’ ceilings. Used 12’ 2x6 the drop had to be trimmed just a couple inches to be used as a fire block between studs. Hardly any waste. You would use more wood going with 12’ ceilings.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:32 am to DVA Tailgater
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We want 12’ ceilings in the living room, but the architect says that would require the remainder of the first floor to be 12’ or essentially add more lumber to “lower” the rest of the first floor to 10’.
I recommend walking through some new "under construction" homes in the price point that you plan on building. You'll find that many, if not all, are running 12' ceilings in the foyer, kitchen, living room and then dropping to 10' for the bedrooms. On the 2nd floor, just about all are 10' ceilings. Occasionally, you'll see the 2nd floor with 9' ceilings in 450-500K range homes. The general price point with 10'& 12' 1st floor mix is around the 550k+ range.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 6:08 am to hungryone
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Generally, 12' ceilings requires taller doors and windows in order to keep rooms proportionally scaled. So you'll be spending more on every door and window in the whole house.
This is what really starts to increase your costs going to 12’. The extra 2-3’ of paint, brick, Sheetrock etc is one thing but the additional details needed to make everything architecturally correct really start to add up.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:53 pm to nolabuilder
There are obviously no builders in this thread, so I guess I'll give my 2 cents. You won't be wasting money with drops on 11' ceilings. 8'-12' ceilings are typically built with precut studs which are cut to accommodate for a bottom plate and double top plate. Therefore, they are slightly shorter than your desired ceiling height. If nominal length lumber were used you would be cutting every stud anyway. 8,9,10,11,12 studs are available at nearly any lumber yard today. However, you will have a small amount of waste on Sheetrock with 11' ceilings, because you will be waisting 1/4 of a sheet in every wall with this ceiling height, unless you can get 4.5' Sheetrock which is available from some material suppliers. That being said the difference in price between 11 and 12 ceilings is small in comparison to the other costs of building a house. Go with your personal preference between the 2. If you feel that 12 is too tall, 11' will be cheaper, just not by much.
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 11/22/19 at 2:55 pm to DVA Tailgater
Do it as a pop up in that room
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