re: Just sowed some Rye seed (March update)

All that is pictured is Bermuda and Rye.

Where the rye is was just bare dirt, weeds, and a little bit of thin unhealthy St. Aug.

I basically wanted to know if the Bermuda would take over the rye area.

If there’s enough Sun for the rye does that mean there’s enough for Bermuda?

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If there’s enough Sun for the rye does that mean there’s enough for Bermuda?

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No.

Rye can grow in just about any conditions, including low/med light. It's amazing how easily it grows in cooler weather and just as easily dies in the heat. It prefers full sun, but doesn't need it.

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I don't know your sun situation, I'm just saying if rye grows that is not an indication that Bermuda can also grow.

How much sun does the area get? If you have a lots of shady trees, it will be very tough to get Bermuda rolling.

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I don't know your sun situation, I'm just saying if rye grows that is not an indication that Bermuda can also grow.

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Right now the sun angle just isn’t good enough to get above the oak tree pictured. There’s also another taller one behind it.

I’m not sure what I’ll do yet.
I might have to admit that my Bermuda area is limited to about 1500 sq ft.

Yeah I’m sure that works great for you up there. Sounds like fun.
I’m way down in Baton Rouge…

Maybe we’ll thin the trees at some point or maybe the sun angle will promote the spread of the Bermuda.

If I have a split yard perhaps I’ll use something to divide the grass types.

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I'm considering doing some sort of bluemuda yard in the future on the front.

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This is what I'm trying to accomplish long term in my Bermuda yard.

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Can consider doing a spf 30 kbg . You'll still lose some in the summer byt not as bad as prg and it will thin, and you may have to overseed every year, but it will also fill it fairly easily in spring and fall. My backyard looks great.

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Very interesting. I hadn’t heard of this particular variety of KBG.
How many months out of the year does it typically look good?

Where do you buy your seed?
Can you cut it at 1.5”?

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How many months out of the year does it typically look good?

Where do you buy your seed?
Can you cut it at 1.5”?

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Can be all year round if you're truly dedicated and can keep up with the watering requirements.

Outsidepride as you linked is the place to get it.

You can do 1.5 during the fall, spring, and winter. If you want to give it the best look in the summer you'd want to cut higher at 3in or so.

With they'll said, that's my main reason to do a bluemuda type of lawn. I let the kbg be dominant during the cooler fall, winter and spring and let bermuda dominate in the summer.

I think you're on thelawnforum. There's an entire thread dedicated to spf 30.

I just went the straight spf 30. The fescue germinates faster and gives the effect of faster fill in, but realistically it's the kbg that you want to take over as it is self repairing vs fescue.

There's some pros and cons to bluemuda as you might be limited on what herbicides you can use. I use msm mostly. Celsius will nuke kbg.

In a well established kbg lawn, you do not necessarily need to overseed every year(unlike fescue), but you may need to in the lower south as you may lose patches of kbg due to heat or humidity, fungal loss etc. Kbg is self repairing and can spread with adequate fertilization etc as well


Here's a pic today(need to mow and spray a few weeds out).

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MSM Turf is your main herbicide?

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For my backyard where the kbg
I use 2-4 d, quinclorac, dicamba (weed b gon) in the cooler months.
I switch to msm when the temps pick up , along with sedgehammer or similar.

You should be seeding in the fall. So if anything you might get a late fall/winter application(no different than doing prg). Spring app of pre emergent is fine.


Between msm and weed b gon, I'm usually good with clover in the lawn, although it's a constant pain. I need to spray my flower beds for clover right now with some round up.

I mean you can, but your chance of success is basically nil. The seeds will germinate and you'll see growth, but the seedlings will get torched by the time late may comes as they won't have established roots.

If you were to seed for spring time, the time to do it would've been February. In general it takes 2-3 weeks for kbg seeds to germinate and then they'll go through a sprout and pout phase where it seems they aren't doing anything for a few more weeks and then the vertical growth begins. In that way its not as satisfying as when you do prg in the winter as it grows so quickly. You are just going to get more success if you prep and plan for seeding in late Sept, early October.

Personally, I would look into more and even read the cool season guides on establishing a kbg lawn and see if it's something you want to commit to.

I would focus on pushing your bermuda growth after praying out prg and see what areas are struggling if any. A lot of people are happy just doing prg overseeds every fall. I did the kbg in my backyard as it's fairly shady and the bermuda would look shitty all year round in many of the backyard spots.