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Anyone done a complete kitchen remodel recently? What resources did you use?
Posted on 10/27/23 at 11:18 am
Posted on 10/27/23 at 11:18 am
If things pan out, we may have a kitchen remodel decision to make.
The current one is 1970s dated and is in really good condition but we're going to run white oak hardwoods throughout the house including the kitchen so this would be the logical time to overhaul it instead of awkward tweaks like modern countertops and backsplashes that would just make the whole room look out of balance.
We're removing the wall between kitchen and dining room so we're going to have a virtual blank palette w/ the exception of the sink which i think would have to stay under the window. The space would be roughly 22x13 with the kitchen window, french doors and dining room window (same size as french doors) along one wall.
i'm all ears on your experiences.
tldr
70s style kitchen remodel desired without upstaging the rest of the house or looking completely out of place with the rest of the house.
The current one is 1970s dated and is in really good condition but we're going to run white oak hardwoods throughout the house including the kitchen so this would be the logical time to overhaul it instead of awkward tweaks like modern countertops and backsplashes that would just make the whole room look out of balance.
We're removing the wall between kitchen and dining room so we're going to have a virtual blank palette w/ the exception of the sink which i think would have to stay under the window. The space would be roughly 22x13 with the kitchen window, french doors and dining room window (same size as french doors) along one wall.
i'm all ears on your experiences.
tldr
70s style kitchen remodel desired without upstaging the rest of the house or looking completely out of place with the rest of the house.
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Posted on 10/27/23 at 11:29 am to CAD703X
If you have pics of what your kitchen looks like now, suggestions might be easier.
We redid our kitchen last year. Made some tweaks to it by removing the pantry room and building a pantry cabinet next to the refrigerator. Built cabinets that reached the ceiling (we have 8.5' ceilings) and eliminated the kitchen soffits. Looking back it might've looked nicer with just the open space between the ceiling and cabinets, but I'm glad I have the flexibility for larger storage above.
I will say that adding the pantry cabinet was a massive improvement, as we used the old pantry room to extend and expand our washer/dryer closet. Added barn doors to a tight spot and it also stores cleaning supplies.
I've seen a lot of newer kitchens add a water faucet above the stovetops. It's mostly a luxury expense but I've never heard a negative thing about them. If you can afford it, go for it.
If 22'x13', possibly look into the idea of a kitchen island that extends for a good length of the kitchen and allows you to have the sink and dishwasher. That would require you breaking the concrete, which would be a massive expense.
We added a dry bar that stores all our coffee/fancy coffee machine, alcohol, fancy glasses, and a dual-zone beverage cooler. Wet bar would've been cool but again, our kitchen/house isn't really that fancy and wasn't worth doing any super massive overhaul of that sort. We did a good bit of tearing up of the old kitchen and modernized the hell out of it, but nothing to break into the foundation and run lines.
We redid our kitchen last year. Made some tweaks to it by removing the pantry room and building a pantry cabinet next to the refrigerator. Built cabinets that reached the ceiling (we have 8.5' ceilings) and eliminated the kitchen soffits. Looking back it might've looked nicer with just the open space between the ceiling and cabinets, but I'm glad I have the flexibility for larger storage above.
I will say that adding the pantry cabinet was a massive improvement, as we used the old pantry room to extend and expand our washer/dryer closet. Added barn doors to a tight spot and it also stores cleaning supplies.
I've seen a lot of newer kitchens add a water faucet above the stovetops. It's mostly a luxury expense but I've never heard a negative thing about them. If you can afford it, go for it.
If 22'x13', possibly look into the idea of a kitchen island that extends for a good length of the kitchen and allows you to have the sink and dishwasher. That would require you breaking the concrete, which would be a massive expense.
We added a dry bar that stores all our coffee/fancy coffee machine, alcohol, fancy glasses, and a dual-zone beverage cooler. Wet bar would've been cool but again, our kitchen/house isn't really that fancy and wasn't worth doing any super massive overhaul of that sort. We did a good bit of tearing up of the old kitchen and modernized the hell out of it, but nothing to break into the foundation and run lines.
This post was edited on 10/27/23 at 11:32 am
Posted on 10/27/23 at 1:11 pm to CAD703X
Finishing up a complete kitchen and lower level remodel.
We removed a pantry in the kitchen and went with 14 3ft pullouts for our pantry. Removing the pantry gave us much more counter space.
Move appliances if you want to make the kitchen function better. We ended up shifting our fridge to the opposite side of the kitchen. And those 14 pull outs will be installed on either side of the fridge. Floor to ceiling cabinets with 7 pull outs each. Should store a ton of stuff.
Don't get too caught up in design decisions. Dont make perfect the enemy of good. We did this a lot. It becomes frustrating and adds time to the reno. We took two weeks picking out the backsplash. Just remember, all of your decisions will probably look nice.
Use a good cabinet designer and get high quality functional cabinets.
I think the most important thing is to sit down with a design team and discuss what you want. This actually help my wife and I to see where we agreed and differed on different things. It was very helpful.
Remember, you can get anything done you want, just have the money ready. We also had a lot of little things done around the house that I've put off doing or didn't want to do. Add those as change orders. Like getting outside hose bibs replaced. Stuff like that.
We removed a pantry in the kitchen and went with 14 3ft pullouts for our pantry. Removing the pantry gave us much more counter space.
Move appliances if you want to make the kitchen function better. We ended up shifting our fridge to the opposite side of the kitchen. And those 14 pull outs will be installed on either side of the fridge. Floor to ceiling cabinets with 7 pull outs each. Should store a ton of stuff.
Don't get too caught up in design decisions. Dont make perfect the enemy of good. We did this a lot. It becomes frustrating and adds time to the reno. We took two weeks picking out the backsplash. Just remember, all of your decisions will probably look nice.
Use a good cabinet designer and get high quality functional cabinets.
I think the most important thing is to sit down with a design team and discuss what you want. This actually help my wife and I to see where we agreed and differed on different things. It was very helpful.
Remember, you can get anything done you want, just have the money ready. We also had a lot of little things done around the house that I've put off doing or didn't want to do. Add those as change orders. Like getting outside hose bibs replaced. Stuff like that.
This post was edited on 10/27/23 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 10/28/23 at 6:15 pm to CAD703X
My unfitted kitchen is on phase 1. I took all the crappy wood paneling down and that exposed old style beadboard. Not the kind at the big box stores.
I have only one actual cabinet. That is for the sink. The rest of my kitchen will be an old pine cabinet with wavy glass doors for my dishes, a rustic high top table, a very ornate cabinet for excess storage, a tall, wide bookcase for pantry and steel restaurant shelf for a work table.
The center island will be an old oak buffet.
The biggest expense will be the LVP flooring since I have big dogs.
I have only one actual cabinet. That is for the sink. The rest of my kitchen will be an old pine cabinet with wavy glass doors for my dishes, a rustic high top table, a very ornate cabinet for excess storage, a tall, wide bookcase for pantry and steel restaurant shelf for a work table.
The center island will be an old oak buffet.
The biggest expense will be the LVP flooring since I have big dogs.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 12:08 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
quote:
If you have pics of what your kitchen looks like now, suggestions might be easier.
here you go. to the left of the pic are french doors and a wall separating dining room which is coming down.
dining room has double windows that are the same size as french doors.
note: kitchen is in *GREAT* condition; everything works great and the tile is solid..but my wife is something of a cook and that 2 burner jenn air ain't gonna cut it. previous owner took immaculate care of every appliance servicing them regularly.
everything must go including the wall oven and cabinets, closet pantry.
This post was edited on 10/30/23 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 10/30/23 at 12:34 pm to CAD703X
Hopefully you move to a gas stove too. You see those coil burners in apartments 
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:53 pm to idlewatcher
quote:yep. Last 3 houses were all gas including one that was propane. There's a 100 gallon tank at this house used exclusively for the fireplace so I'm hoping to tap that for the range. Shouldn't use too much for just one appliance.
Hopefully you move to a gas stove too. You see those coil burners in apartments
Eta there's a griddle hidden under that butcher block so it's not as tiny as it looks.
This post was edited on 10/30/23 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:53 pm to CAD703X
I did my reno in 2014 when I bought this current house. It was a rental and was pretty beat up. Knocked out a wall, gutted kitchen and was pretty pleased with results. I like the cream colored cabinets with the dark mahogany floors I put in. However, they look like shite now because my dogs have ruined the floors. Claw marks remove dark finish and expose the light colored wood underneath. Wooden counter tops are pretty cool.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:59 pm to TigerB8
Same. 3 rambunctious dogs. Hoping the light colored hardwood will help hide scratches.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 3:08 pm to CAD703X
Remove the soffits and don't look back. Full height cabinets will work or you can have that tiny gap above. It helps open up the kitchen a tiny bit.
By the looks of things, I don't think you have much of an option to switch over to gas anywhere unless you move your stove top to where you built in oven is? I'm going to assume that is also electric?
The tile does look nice but you're really going to need to find a way to make everything blend well, if you can. The wood looks great and so do the cabinet colors but if you don't remove the floor, I'd suggest going with a white quartzite/quartz countertop with as little movement as possible. Straight edges and not curved as seen currently. Backsplash and paint should be closer to white as well. Feels like the room is closer to an off white color? I would say make your cabinets and backsplash brighter/whiter than the walls themselves.
Try to get all appliances to match the same, ideally stainless steel. I'm guessing your fridge is the newest appliances there. You can mix up brands and that's totally fine. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Cabinet hardware/pulls should also be stainless steel. I like black hardware but it would probably create less visual noise if you go with stainless steel:
If it's within the budget, see about going with some 4" recessed lights and replacing the current light fixture. Retrofit lights are perfect and an easy install if you have only have an attic above to access.
I hope this doesn't come as me shitting on your kitchen. It looks like it's in great shape and has been taken care of. It's just a little outdated.
By the looks of things, I don't think you have much of an option to switch over to gas anywhere unless you move your stove top to where you built in oven is? I'm going to assume that is also electric?
The tile does look nice but you're really going to need to find a way to make everything blend well, if you can. The wood looks great and so do the cabinet colors but if you don't remove the floor, I'd suggest going with a white quartzite/quartz countertop with as little movement as possible. Straight edges and not curved as seen currently. Backsplash and paint should be closer to white as well. Feels like the room is closer to an off white color? I would say make your cabinets and backsplash brighter/whiter than the walls themselves.
Try to get all appliances to match the same, ideally stainless steel. I'm guessing your fridge is the newest appliances there. You can mix up brands and that's totally fine. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Cabinet hardware/pulls should also be stainless steel. I like black hardware but it would probably create less visual noise if you go with stainless steel:
If it's within the budget, see about going with some 4" recessed lights and replacing the current light fixture. Retrofit lights are perfect and an easy install if you have only have an attic above to access.
I hope this doesn't come as me shitting on your kitchen. It looks like it's in great shape and has been taken care of. It's just a little outdated.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 3:15 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Oh it's not even ours yet so you're not hurting my feelings
We haven't closed on the house just getting everything ready to start demo on day 1 assuming no hiccups.
We have a crawl space so running the gas line should be easy. The fireplace is in middle of the far wall in the room on the other side of the door - you can barely see the stone of the fireplace in that pic.
All new lighting fixtures will be going in as well.
We haven't closed on the house just getting everything ready to start demo on day 1 assuming no hiccups.
We have a crawl space so running the gas line should be easy. The fireplace is in middle of the far wall in the room on the other side of the door - you can barely see the stone of the fireplace in that pic.
All new lighting fixtures will be going in as well.
This post was edited on 10/30/23 at 3:18 pm
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