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Another A/C Thread - Ducted Split Units

Posted on 8/21/23 at 11:42 am
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/21/23 at 11:42 am
All these A/C threads, and with my unit celebrating 10 years in a few months, I've been looking casually at potential options if I need to replace. I've been seeing these ducted split inverter units on office buildings around my house recently and I've been intrigued by them. Anyone have one of these big tonnage systems on their homes? Any feedback on them? From reading it sounds like they are quiet and efficient. MrCool seems to be the most popular.

4-Ton MrCool with Gas Heat
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
69399 posts
Posted on 8/21/23 at 7:53 pm to
Tracking.

With how awesome the minisplit systems are, all variable speed stuff sounds pretty awesome to me.
Posted by Johnpettigrew
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2017
1701 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 6:15 am to
If possible, I would look at the cassette units and installing multiple units. Redundancy in case one unit goes out will allow you to have zones in home that are still cool. One of the issues I am having with ducted AC during this heat wave is how much the cold air heats in attic duct work on its way to the registers in house. The great thing about the cassette an wall mount mini splits is that the air is cooled at the point of use. I installed 2 9k and a 12k Senville unit in a 900 sq foot rental house. Ducted, standard AC quote was $8500, I self installed for less than 3k. Also, these units qualify for a 30% tax credit under the Inflation reduction act.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 7:19 am to
I think I'm going to do my whole house thay way. Easy DIY, very efficient.

I hate ducts
Posted by Johnpettigrew
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2017
1701 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 7:33 am to
Just based off my little bit of experience I will be doing the same. I don’t have a large home so when building in 99 we just put a single 5 ton unit. It has just not been enough in this current heat wave. Runs all day to hold 76 degrees. Planning to remove about 500 square feet from the ducted system and move it to a single 36000 btu cassette mini split. That will bring my AC load to 8 tons. Eventually as the 5 ton unit ages out, I will replace with additional mini splits.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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69399 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:00 am to
I'm thinking about getting a 4 ton 8 zone unit and putting a cassette in every room.

At first thought it seems like it'd be pretty damn sweet. The condensation handling makes me a little nervous, and having 8x blowers and 8x condensate pumps and 8x filters raises my eyebrow. Being able avoid wasting horsepower on unused rooms sounds excellent. No ducts sounds excellent. Seems like it's fantastic besides the initial price, which is high but nowhere near the cost of a full traditional system installation.

I'm failing to see any significant drawbacks, which means I probably don't REALLY understand how it works.
Posted by Johnpettigrew
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2017
1701 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:27 am to
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The condensation handling


So with the current units I have, the drain line just runs out the wall with the refridgeration line. I never thought about the cassettes but I have to imagine the actual evaporator extends high enough into the ceiling to do the same. I will have two refridgeration lines over 20’ and have no plan to try to run the drain line that far. I will plumb it just like a traditional unit with one line tying into an air vent for house drain lines and a second(tattle tale) at nearest eave point. What’s insane is all these units are over 20 seer and while heat pumps, you can over engineer and still cost will be way below traditional ducted system. Add the savings for each room having individual thermostat control, and your electricity bill should reduce significantly. I am an empty nester with a 4 bedroom/3 bath home that I have to heat and cool in its entirety. I looked at the damper systems and those would cost almost as mini splits after the installation charge.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 1:41 pm to
The ceiling cassettes all have condensate pumps in them. That doesn't necessarily bother me, it's just that I'm sure they're a pain in the arse to replace if the parts are even available 10 years from now at all.

That's my main concern. Duct tape isn't going away. What happens when R410 isn't available anymore and I have to change a cassette out but they don't make 410 cassettes? Probably gonna be stuck replacing the whole damn system because one cassette blower clapped out or something stupid like that.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 3:34 pm to
Ive gotten two units added on to certain areas of the house. Both units are Gree. One was added to an upstairs area and that unit included ducts to go to two rooms and a bathroom. It is 18k btu and seems to handle the rooms just fine. Theyre just moderate sized bedrooms. The other is a 24k btu unit and its ductless and has 1 wall mount for a rec room. The rec room is a good size around 800 sq ft with vaulted ceilings and that unit gets that room like the arctic if I crank it up. They are very quiet.

They have been running a little over a year to the day and I havent had any trouble with them minus a drain line that was the hvac guy's fault.
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 6:36 pm
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