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100 rep sets

Posted on 1/18/21 at 4:14 pm
Posted by jmh5724
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 4:14 pm
Has anyone experimented with 100 rep sets? Today I did chest and tris and decided to get away from the heavy, short sets. I did as many as I could, taking 15 second breaks in between, until I hit 100 reps/exercise. I reduced the weight to about 40% of my max and it was tough. Would doing this be more beneficial to burning fat or will muscle gain still be attainable?
Posted by Backinthe615
Member since Nov 2011
6871 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 5:07 pm to
I do several moves like that, pushup w/bars x4 every morning. I do dumbbell curls kind of like that but take a short breath between every 20 without putting the weight down.

Most of my routines are rep heavy, but I also got an 8 grip pull up bar this year that’s kicking my arse to help balance things out.

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gain

Any more strength is good strength, mix it up. Reps are golden, especially if you’re old AF like me.

Find something you dig that establishes a baseline power on both.
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 6:29 pm
Posted by TexasBuckeye
Texas
Member since Nov 2018
355 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 7:22 pm to
Just to mix it up a partner and I did a 100 rep burnout with triceps extension on the cable stack before our arm workout. He would just randomly choose weight every ten of my reps that would challenge me or allow me to “rest.” Don’t know if I would recommend it very often but had the best pump after and made everything else after that so much harder.
Posted by Homey the Clown
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:40 am to
Changing up a routine every once in a while is a good thing from my experience. It tends to give your muscles a "shock", which is good. Doing the same routine every week, while for some, may get tedious, it also allows your muscles to get "comfortable".

This is why I always try to do my lifts in a different order each week, and also switch up weight/reps. Some weeks I'll do lower weight, higher reps, other weeks I'll do more weight, less reps. Some weeks I'll do four days of full body workouts instead of targeting a specific muscle group each day.

Keep your body guessing, and you will continue to progress.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:46 am to
I think research shows that routines like German Volume Training aren’t effective. There are only so many sets your body can use to stimulate growth and development.

So you’re essentially doing a calorie burner routine by increasing your heart rate over a period of time.
Posted by Homey the Clown
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/19/21 at 9:14 am to
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I think research shows that routines like German Volume Training aren’t effective.

On another note, online, you can basically find "research" that backs pretty much anything if you look hard enough.

If you are sore after a lifting session, then it worked, regardless of what "research" says.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18411 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:05 am to
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On another note, online, you can basically find "research" that backs pretty much anything if you look hard enough.

If you are sore after a lifting session, then it worked, regardless of what "research" says.


None of what you said is accurate.

And it may have worked muscles, but in terms of building strength or building size, doing 100 reps in a short amount of time isn’t doing it.

You’d be better off doing 2x5, 1x5+. Much better off.
Posted by Homey the Clown
Member since Feb 2009
5715 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:41 am to
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None of what you said is accurate.

Please elaborate.


ETA: You can find research to back anything:

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There's a kind of pride in feeling sore from a hard workout. It's a reminder that your body accomplished something impressive, whether that was a hard strength training workout or a long run. There's also the idea that the workout that leaves you sore is also the one that's helping you get stronger. "No pain, no gain" is a saying for a reason — but is there any truth to it? Does muscle soreness really correlate to muscle growth? POPSUGAR talked to Sander Rubin, MD, sports medicine specialist at Northwestern Medicine, to get to the bottom of it.

"Muscle soreness can absolutely indicate that our muscles are growing," Dr. Rubin said. Some inflammation is required in order for your muscles to get bigger and stronger, he explained. Your body sends out pain signals as a part of that response, which cause the feeling of soreness and even discomfort after intense exercise.

Dr. Rubin pointed out, though, that if you don't feel sore after a workout, it doesn't mean the exercise "didn't work." He explained that "post-workout soreness is caused by a variety of factors." In fact, the actual cause of common muscle soreness — also known as delayed-onset muscle soreness or DOMS — isn't yet known, though it's thought to be related to inflammation caused by microscopic tears in your muscles. Some studies have shown that muscle soreness isn't the best indicator of muscle growth, Dr. Rubin explained; "the lack of soreness does not mean your workout wasn't successful in building muscle."


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"Muscle soreness can absolutely indicate that our muscles are growing," Dr. Rubin said.
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 10:51 am
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73503 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 1:13 pm to
I agree that one can find studies to back up pretty much any fitness and diet claim out there. However, the belief that soreness equates to an effective workout has been debunked numerous times. While soreness frequently comes as a result of an intense weight training session, especially when beginning lifting or coming off of a break, people become stronger and gain muscle even when they do not regularly experience soreness.

I'm sure there is some benefit to doing 20, 50, even 100 reps, but I just don't think the benefits are going to surpass the tried and true 4-12 rep range for most exercises, especially when the goal is hypertrophy, strength, or power. There are obvious exceptions, like abs and other body weight exercises or plyometrics. I just don't understand why anyone would choose to do 5 sets of 20 bench presses or 3 sets of 30 dead lifts or the like. Even 3 sets of 25 bicep curls just seems silly.
Posted by Homey the Clown
Member since Feb 2009
5715 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:08 pm to
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I just don't think the benefits are going to surpass the tried and true 4-12 rep range for most exercises, especially when the goal is hypertrophy, strength, or power


I don't disagree with that. I never do more than 5-12 reps per set. My point was that switching things up wont hurt. If ole boy was to rep out 100 tri extension once a month, by all means go for it; it isn't going to hurt, but doing it every workout is frowned upon.

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While soreness frequently comes as a result of an intense weight training session, especially when beginning lifting or coming off of a break, people become stronger and gain muscle even when they do not regularly experience soreness.


I didn't say you WON'T experience muscle growth unless you get sore, I said that if you are getting sore, you are progressing. Which might not be 100% accurate, I'd say its probably 90% accurate; a side from soreness from injuries caused by bad form, etc. At least it has been for me. I completely agree that you get make gainz without soreness. My biceps rarely ever get sore, but they still get stronger, and slightly bigger the more I workout.
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