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re: Rory won the Masters with an illegal driver

Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:35 pm to
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:35 pm to
Cheated on his wife, cheated in golf.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:35 pm to
So, no rules? Run what you bring? Formula Libre?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:36 pm to
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over a 4 week period? lol. Ok. Does not happen.
You actually are dumb

For every club that becomes non-confirming, it’s literally one golf shot that changes it. It isn’t magic. A club is confirming and then it isn’t. If testing was done after every single shot the club hit in its lifetime, it would pass on one shot, and then the very next shot it would eventually fail.
This post was edited on 5/17/25 at 3:37 pm
Posted by blueboxer1119
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:38 pm to
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Dude you literally made a thread saying he used an illegal driver. You clearly dont understand the rules. The driver he uses is perfectly legal. Its a Taylormade Qi10. He's using the same driver today.


If a college baseball player uses a CatX bat and shaves and rolls it, is it legal because it’s a CatX?
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:39 pm to
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So your take is the face was massively altered

Where did you see that it was massively altered? Michael Kim said the difference between conforming and not conforming is like half a yard

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Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:39 pm to
If a player uses a cat x that’s never failed a test yes its a legal bat
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:43 pm to
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If a player uses a cat x that’s never failed a test yes its a legal bat


So a rolled and shaved CatX is legal?

Yes or no?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:43 pm to
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So a rolled and shaved CatX is legal? Yes or no?
link to Rory rolling and shaving his driver?

This post was edited on 5/17/25 at 3:44 pm
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:44 pm to
Is pine tar also allowed in baseball as long as your not caught?

Or is it not allowed?
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:44 pm to
Answer the question.

Is a shaved and rolled CatX a legal bat?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104281 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:45 pm to
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Is a shaved and rolled CatX a legal bat?
Yes, as long at it passed its test

Once it fails the player must remove it

Link to Rory using a driver that failed a test for the masters?
This post was edited on 5/17/25 at 3:46 pm
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:46 pm to
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So, no rules? Run what you bring? Formula Libre?


Exactly
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:46 pm to
You made the statement Rory used an illegal driver at the masters. Can you link us to that

Thanks
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:46 pm to
Ok, then
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104281 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:47 pm to
Also, can you show is a link Scottie and Bryson aren’t using illegal drivers this week


Thanks
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:48 pm to
So your take is you can do illegal shite as long as you don’t get caught.

Thanks for clarifying.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104281 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:49 pm to
Link to Rory using an illegal driver at the masters?


Link to Scottie not using an illegal driver this week?
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9153 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:51 pm to
You just said it doesn’t matter if you cheat, only if you get caught.

So cheating is ok in your book.

If a player brings a shaved and rolled bat into a game knowingly, that’s cheating. If pitchers use pine tar, that’s cheating. Not following rules is cheating. Rory didn’t follow the rules. Full stop.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104281 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:52 pm to
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You just said it doesn’t matter if you cheat, only if you get caught. So cheating is ok in your book.
I said if you have a club that conforms it’s not cheating. Very simple
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 4:02 pm to
You are missing the point where Rory's driver passed a test before The Masters.

It was a legal and approved club until this week.

It wasnt an untested club. Every club gets tested before it is allowed to be used in competition. The Taylormade Qi10 is no different. But a new Taylormade Qi10 can have a different CT rating than a used one just like a new metal baseball bat has a different springyness than that has been used to hit a few hundred baseballs


Driver testing explained

PGA Championship 2025:
The news of Rory McIlroy’s driver being ruled nonconforming for exceeding the spring-like effect prior to the start of this week’s PGA Championship has spread like wildfire since first being reported Friday afternoon. So have the questions.
So Rory was using a hot driver, basically cheating, right?
No. This is not a corked-bat situation. While we don’t know all the ins and outs of McIlroy’s specific test with his TaylorMade Qi10 driver because under the process for testing drivers for CT (characteristic time) that is employed at PGA Tour events and major championships, test results are held in confidence, aside from pulling the driver from competition.

PGA Championship 2025: Rory McIlroy's driver deemed non-conforming by USGA ahead
The CT test is a sophisticated but quick field test to determine if a driver’s face is too springy. It uses a scale of microseconds to determine face flexibility where the legal limit is 239 with an 18 microsecond tolerance to make the overall drop-dead limit of 257 microseconds. This is basically like the idea of having a speed limit of 65, but knowing that you’re only getting pulled over if you’re running at 72. However, unlike the speed limit example, the difference between 239 and 257 is simply the tolerance of the measurement device. The difference in performance between something a little under the limit and something a little over the limit would likely be the difference in two drives measured in feet, not yards
This post was edited on 5/17/25 at 4:09 pm
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