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re: Patrick Reed at it again.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 1:05 pm to Choupique19
Posted on 2/1/21 at 1:05 pm to Choupique19
One example with Tiger, who is without a doubt the most watched golfer of all time in terms of the number of shots and situations shown on TV, does not equal or come close to equaling the issues that have followed Reed. You're an idiot if you think moving a boulder, which technically can be moved, is anything close to the things Reed has done and been accused of doing. Your bias against Tiger is childish.
This post was edited on 2/1/21 at 1:06 pm
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 1:20 pm to ell_13
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One example with Tiger, who is without a doubt the most watched golfer of all time in terms of the number of shots and situations shown on TV, does not equal or come close to equaling the issues that have followed Reed. You're an idiot if you think moving a boulder, which technically can be moved, is anything close to the things Reed has done and been accused of doing. Your bias against Tiger is childish.
You are using a lifetime of incidents against Reed in this one situation on Saturday. Another poster called PatReed a POS for using the rules to his advantage. PGA players do it all the time. I gave one glaring example, but because you are a big Tiger fan you don’t want to acknowledge it.
I’m not calling Tiger a POS for doing what he did, I’m just saying if the other poster deems Reed to be a POS for dropping from an embedded lie, then Tiger would have to be judged the same for calling a boulder a loose impediment.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 1:40 pm to Choupique19
You're an idiot, find a better shtick than supporting one of the most hated guys in the history of the game. And yeah, he is a POS.. he's asking a volunteer of all people if the ball bounced and picking it up before a rules official even shows up. You'd think a guy with his already shady past would at least have the common sense to wait. Linking tiger '99 waste management boulder as an example was pretty retarded btw
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This post was edited on 2/1/21 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 2/1/21 at 1:43 pm to Choupique19
quote:Hell yeah, I am.
You are using a lifetime of incidents against Reed in this one situation on Saturday.
It's called reality and context. When someone does something once or maybe just a few times over 30 years, that doesn't make that person a habitual cheater and a POS. Reed's history is exactly why he doesn't get slack. You say that's not fair, but that's his fault and no one else's. Maybe don't cheat all the way through high school, college, and pros and people won't freak out when you lie and cheat again. quote:Again... every shot Tiger has ever hit has a pro has been filmed with millions of people watching. Him getting a couple penalties or getting one favorable ruling over that 25+ year career is peanuts. I'd be shocked if there was nothing on him at all. Using that as some sort of comparison to Reed who has done this over his whole life is kind of desperate of you.
I’m just saying if the other poster deems Reed to be a POS for dropping from an embedded lie, then Tiger would have to be judged the same for calling a boulder a loose impediment.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 2:07 pm to Maravich
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he's asking a volunteer of all people if the ball bounced
All the golfers do this if they didn’t see it land
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and picking it up before a rules official even shows up.
He didn’t even have to call for a rules official, and he certainly didn’t have to wait for one to pick his ball up. The rule allows the player to check for themselves.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 2:57 pm to Choupique19
Lol get off your hands and knees for fat pat. There's no convincing me or probably 95% of this board that the guy isn't a pos and/or cheater. His past speaks for itself.
There's no convincing me or probably 95% of this board that the guy isn't a pos and/or cheater. His past speaks for itself. Posted on 2/1/21 at 3:03 pm to Maravich
Please explain the difference in what Rory did and what Patrick did on Saturday.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 3:36 pm to Choupique19
First 20 min of nlu farmers recap sums it up pretty well. Sorry bud seems you were dropped a few too many times a child, not going to argue with ya.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 3:47 pm to Maravich
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not going to argue with ya.
Good move because your first two arguments were completely inaccurate.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 3:50 pm to Choupique19
If you put the effort in trying to break 80 that you do suckin off pat you'd be there in no time. Maybe one day
Posted on 2/1/21 at 4:53 pm to Choupique19
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Please explain the difference in what Rory did and what Patrick did on Saturday.
Not gonna get an honest answer from the looks of this thread lol. Pat, as well as Rory, were well within the rules and did what each should have done, period end of story.
I personally wish he'd have won in a playoff to piss everyone in this thread off even more.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 5:05 pm to EagleEye99
Listen to the NLU podcast. Minute 39 starts the comparison with Rory. It explains it well. Rory said he has no doubt it went up and back down in its own pitch mark. So it’s quite a different scenario. You also have someone in Rory who has given himself worse relief even when he didn’t have to vs Reed who’s a well-known scumbag.
ETA: Rory also had Sabatini right there as a witness.
ETA: Rory also had Sabatini right there as a witness.
This post was edited on 2/1/21 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 2/1/21 at 5:34 pm to ell_13
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“John Mutch, Ken Tackett and Gary Young have reviewed the Rory McIlroy videos from No. 18 yesterday and determined that it was virtually the same situation that Patrick Reed faced on No. 10 during the third round,” the statement read. “It was reasonable for both players to conclude – based on the fact that they did not see the ball land but given the lie of the ball in soft course conditions – that they proceed as the Rule allows for a potential embedded ball.
“They marked, lifted and assessed the situation to determine if the ball was embedded. Patrick went one step further and called in a Rules Official to be sure his assessment would not be questioned (although this step is not required). Both players took proper relief under the Rule 16/3. The Committee is comfortable with how both players proceeded given the fact that they used the evidence they had at the time.”
I raise your NLU podcast, to the statement from the PGA Tour rules officials. /thread?
Posted on 2/1/21 at 5:37 pm to EagleEye99
quote:Yeah. They have to cover their arse. No bias there at all.
the statement from the PGA Tour rules officials. /thread?
You literally have multiple players saying the Reed was wrong but the PGA has to protect him. /thread
ETA: and NLU addresses Reed bringing in the official. Saying he knew it was a useless move to just give himself cover for cheating. Point being, Reed has learned how to cheat well. He knew the official was simply there to agree with him. He had already moved the ball. He left it out of the imaginary pitch mark. If he really wanted an official there to rule on the lie, he would have left the ball there or replaced it in its exact spot. He didn’t do either. That alone proves that he wasn’t asking the official there to rule on the lie but to just give him a thumbs up from the PGA which he had no choice but to do.
This post was edited on 2/1/21 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 2/1/21 at 5:41 pm to ell_13
Rory's statement
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2021/01/31/pga-tour-rory-mcilroy-embedded-ball-patrick-reed/
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“Yesterday was one of those things that I guess Patrick and I both went on the information that we had and made those determinations. I guess people can jump to conclusions, but at the same time we were well within our rights to do what we did. My ball was certainly plugged on 18, Patrick felt his ball was plugged on 10 and we proceeded on from there.”
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2021/01/31/pga-tour-rory-mcilroy-embedded-ball-patrick-reed/
Posted on 2/1/21 at 5:43 pm to EagleEye99
quote:No one says they broke a rule as written. Doesn’t mean he didn’t lie to create an advantage (cheat). But one is obviously a liar while the other made the move he thought was right. It’s easy to doubt one and not the other based on their history and what we saw. Again, Rory believes his ball went in its own pitch mark. Reed’s 100% did not. That’s a huge difference.
but at the same time we were well within our rights to do what we did.
This post was edited on 2/1/21 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 2/1/21 at 5:50 pm to ell_13
Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:58 pm to ell_13
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the statement from the PGA Tour rules officials. /thread?
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Yeah. They have to cover their arse. No bias there at all.
You literally have multiple players saying the Reed was wrong but the PGA has to protect him. /thread
Why does the Tour have to protect “a cheater”? If he broke the rules, he should be punished.
Or are we saying Reed stole a base up 7 runs? Or he ran across the pitchers mound on his way back to the dugout even though he’s not the pitcher?
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:03 pm to Choupique19
quote:you can break rules and get away with it you know. All you have to do is lie and not have anyone able to dispute it even when video does. It’s the same reason the nfl protects refs and the wrong calls they make. A rule gets broken but the official doesn’t call it in real time for whatever reason. The nfl protects the ref even though it was wrong.
Why does the Tour have to protect “a cheater”? If he broke the rules, he should be punished.
The PGA knows that the official has to go along with Reed there because the rule doesn’t stop him from check his ball nor does it require him to replace it or even call someone over. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t wrong (again) and deserves ridicule for it. Any defense at this point is trolling.
This post was edited on 2/1/21 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:07 pm to ell_13
Rory has been on tour most of my adult life and I can't remember one rules issue. Reed, on the other hand, by all accounts, is a shitty person in general, but a known thief and cheater. One gets the benefit of the doubt, the other doesn't.
Rory clearly felt that his ball was embedded, had no knowledge of a bounce or any reason to think differently, so he moved forward without a rules official. I'm fine with that. Reed clearly wanted a rules official to bless his decision to cover him. Reed talked the official into agreeing.
As someone who has never played in a golf event with rules officials following my group, I can only explain this in terms I understand. As a catcher, I framed hundreds of thousands of pitches over my career with the sole purpose of talking an umpire into making a call that he shouldn't. I'd catch the ball, make it look like a strike, and dare the umpire to call it a ball and deal with the reaction from the fans. If it was the third strike and I thought it was close, I'd throw it around before the umpire called it a strike daring him to call it a ball. More times than not, you can get away with a lot of that.
That's basically what Reed did. He may or may not have felt a lip or created a lip, but he called the official over and dared the official to call a top 10 player out on his bullshite, knowing it was never going to happen. It gave him enough cover to do whatever he would have done had no one been there. Him winning 6 Monday Qs is a headscratcher.
Rory clearly felt that his ball was embedded, had no knowledge of a bounce or any reason to think differently, so he moved forward without a rules official. I'm fine with that. Reed clearly wanted a rules official to bless his decision to cover him. Reed talked the official into agreeing.
As someone who has never played in a golf event with rules officials following my group, I can only explain this in terms I understand. As a catcher, I framed hundreds of thousands of pitches over my career with the sole purpose of talking an umpire into making a call that he shouldn't. I'd catch the ball, make it look like a strike, and dare the umpire to call it a ball and deal with the reaction from the fans. If it was the third strike and I thought it was close, I'd throw it around before the umpire called it a strike daring him to call it a ball. More times than not, you can get away with a lot of that.
That's basically what Reed did. He may or may not have felt a lip or created a lip, but he called the official over and dared the official to call a top 10 player out on his bullshite, knowing it was never going to happen. It gave him enough cover to do whatever he would have done had no one been there. Him winning 6 Monday Qs is a headscratcher.
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