re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

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I'm thinking about that 4070ti Super. Just thoughts.

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What do you have now, what do you play, and at what resolution?

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None of that matters. Its shiny and new.

Just kidding. I don't need it. I have no current issues.

3080
COD, Cyberpunk (I'll finish it eventually), Just started God of War, retired from Destiny 2 (for now)
1440

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Roughly where I am. I'd rather just wait another year or so to get to next gen.

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Roughly where I am. I'd rather just wait another year or so to get to next gen.

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In the interest of full disclosure, the plan is to build at 15th gen intel. Get the whole DDR5, PCIE 5.0. I built at 11th gen and have no upgrades on LGA1200. Which is why I was looking at AM5 earlier as well.

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If your primary use case is gaming, you can't really beat the AMD x3D chips.

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I do 95.7% gaming with my PC. The other 4.3% consists of internet browsing, email, and an occasional word document.

So, yes, I will be strongly considering the x3D. If I want to upgrade now, I have a build with the 7800X3D which would be a pretty good jump from the 11900K that I currently have. With the AM5 platform, I would have upgrade possibilities in the future as well.

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If gaming, then ya, the x3d is the bee knees. They should run very cool. Although, keep in mind that your memory has to be trained every time to boot. Also, if you put your pc to sleep most of times(like me), your memory will be slightly slower.

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I have to think that’s something they will iron out for the next boards now that DDR5 will be a bit further along. If not, that’s going to frustrate “mainline” users.

Yep, both brands have their caveats. The memory is AMD's. It beats the 424723047 watts on Intel tho.

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Your CPU isn't bottlenecking you and won't for some time.

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I don't necessarily agree with this. While he's going to be GPU bound the overwhelming majority of the time for now, there are parts of certain games, like CP 2077 as an example, that he's going to be CPU bound, and it's going to cause stuttering. I know, because I'm running a 5800x which is roughly equivalent for gaming.

Now, that doesn't mean he needs to go upgrade his CPU. I'm currently content with mine. But I find the "bound" discussion tends to be a bit too broad brush in focusing on averages.

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Ya, there are some cpu bottlenecks. BG3 says hi.

However, most games don't follow in that footprint.

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They don't, again, not a need. But I can tell you from first hand experience that micro stutters are incredibly grating when you're sitting next to a gaming super computer

But there are ways to deal with it, most of which I'm mentioned before. The first is to jack up graphics settings to try to return to being GPU bound. And if that isn't enough, artificially cap your framerate (via Nvidia control panel, etc) below where your CPU bound drops are going. Lower and smooth is better than higher and choppy.

ETA: I have BG3 frame capped at 100fps for exactly that reason.

He doesn't play games that will bottleneck it.

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like CP 2077 as an example, that he's going to be CPU bound, and it's going to cause stuttering.

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CP 2077 was having issues more frequently, but I changed some performance settings (I think I dropped Ray-tracing) and it stopped. I run CP at highest settings, no ray tracing, and I bounce around 80 fps.

COD studders from time to time but it happens then doesn't again during my entire playtime, and not every session. I run 100-105 fps on COD at max settings.

Like I said, I'm not really having issues with CPU or GPU, I just have no where to go CPU wise as 11th gen intel is a dead end, MB wise. I built in late 2021 on the front of 12th gen releasing. I made the decision at that time to go more budget for 11th gen. I know 2 years or so isn't a long time, but I'm in a better position now to be able to increase budget and have something that I can upgrade over time, if I want. If I go AM5 or LGA1851, I'll have quite a few years of upgrades, if needed, either way.

ETA: I may have mentioned earlier, I like new shiny things. So factor that in as well.