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Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:03 pm to
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:03 pm to
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Jesus. Such old tech, that is the worst part


3470 is still more than capable though
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/13/18 at 9:26 am to
How do you get one for retail? Luck into one in store?
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 3/13/18 at 9:40 am to
r/buildapcsales
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/13/18 at 9:49 am to
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3470 is still more than capable though

I never said anything about that part.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:22 am to
oh so you were talking about the 1080ti
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:29 am to
Yeah

Edt: imo the price is still high for old Pascal. It has been out for a few years now. By this time we would have received something new. We still might but rumors have it pushed back to the end of summer.

It is a hard price to pay IMO for something so old. You will have 3-6 months of good driver updates until the next architecture drops. It's not the death of the card but driver support is a huge factor of why I buy new cards right when new architecture drops. I buying into that 1.5-2yrs of 1st in line support.

Not saying I wouldn't buy if in need but it is one of those hard pills to swallow imo.
This post was edited on 3/13/18 at 10:48 am
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:47 am to
Trying to remember where I read about the new card coming out but they are guessing that the prices will be absurdly high upon release due to mining
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:53 am to
You just won't be able to purchase outside a pre-order. Rumors had them dropping at the end of this month but nVdia sort of confirmed that is not the case. The planned to release this month but flash prices have forced them to release at the end of summer.

Not only flash prices but an interesting story developed where they can't get the fab space. Another company went in earlier and scheduled up all the lines within the fab. That company being one of the larger BTC ASCI miner companies.

Edt: Check out this article from PCPer
This post was edited on 3/13/18 at 10:56 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:54 am to
Mid 2018 is the rumored release for the 2080 and 2070
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/13/18 at 11:01 am to
for what, $2k each?
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/13/18 at 11:05 am to
Remember they will be Little not Big. So compute will suck. Not only that nVidia said they are handicapping the gaming line even more in terms of compute. Not only to provide more yeild per waffer they purchase with that smaller die but to force ppl to buy their Tesla and Deep Learning lines.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/13/18 at 11:05 am to
I imagine $600 for 2070 and $800 for 2080 MSRP.

But of course you'll likely see them on Newegg/Amazon/etc for $2k each
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/13/18 at 11:07 am to
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I imagine $600 for 2070 and $800 for 2080 MSRP. 

But of course you'll likely see them on Newegg/Amazon/etc for $2k each

Yep. Thinking 599-699 for the 1080 which but hey maybe 799. Would be kind of crazy.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/13/18 at 11:08 am to
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Remember they will be Little not Big. So compute will suck. Not only that nVidia said they are handicapping the gaming line even more in terms of compute. Not only to provide more yeild per waffer they purchase with that smaller die but to force ppl to buy their Tesla and Deep Learning lines.



Yea I have no idea what the frick any of this means, I just wanted to upgrade my card at some point
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19382 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 11:14 am to
LINK

See if this guy still has this? Watson isnt too far away from you
Posted by SBvital
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/13/18 at 11:18 am to
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Yea I have no idea what the frick any of this means


I'm glad I'm not the only one.. I was reading that like "uhhhhh"
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/13/18 at 11:19 am to
Frack the miners! Been waiting forever to update my system and I refuse to pay the current prices!

Thankfully, it has been a slow year for me with new games. I've been playing a pile of older games which work just fine on my 980.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56438 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 11:19 am to
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Yea I have no idea what the frick any of this means, I just wanted to upgrade my card at some point

What cost is the wafer. Not the silicon wafer itself but the process of using UV sensitive syndrome to cut pathways into the silicon. The process takes the same amount of time even if you are producing 10 or 100 dies/chips from a single wafer. It still takes the same amount of time.

So if you can produce more chips per wafer, you can off a cheaper product.

Wafer
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56438 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 11:20 am to
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Very hard to find a ND these things, I paid $799 for it.

Jesus.
This post was edited on 3/13/18 at 11:21 am
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56438 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 11:22 am to
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Thankfully, it has been a slow year for me with new games. I've been playing a pile of older games which work just fine on my 980.

Honestly this last year sucked for PC gaming outside of PUBG. The only game I really played a ton of on PC this year was AC: Origins.

If it wasn't for my Switch and PS4 gaming would be slow. It was a GREAT year for the PS4 and the Switch's BoTW i'm still playing.
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