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Much needed help on for gaming pc

Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:01 pm
Posted by hwyman108
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:01 pm
My son’s bday is in April and he’s been wanting to build his first gaming pc. His budget is $3k and he’s been saving for it but I want to surprise him and buy all the components that’s needed.

Problem is I have no idea what is considered to be the vital components that make the difference in performance.

He definitely wants a 34” curved monitor. Any help would be much appreciated.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:06 pm to
Two things:

1. Does he just want a curved monitor, or does he want an ultrawide monitor? At 34”, that sounds like a 3440x1440 ultrawide, but you should confirm.

2. $3k is a pretty healthy budget, even accounting for the monitor, so you shouldn’t have to make too many accommodations, but knowing what games he plays would be helpful.
Posted by Goalie
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 12:35 am to
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This is my list.

The graphics card and power supply can be ordered from a different website. Just research those that are listed.

This build is a beast gaming pc. He will love this pc. It's equivalent to probably a 4090 or at least a 4080 super. All under 3k.

Download "driver easy" and sub to it after he installs windows and get all drivers updated. Excellent app.

Download MSI Click BIOS and he can tune his cpu to gaming tweaks

Download "AMD Adrenaline". This app tweaks the graphics card for high performance adjustments or more chilled adjustments. Depends on what games he plays also.

As far as a monitor, a 24 inch is for heavy gamers who want the best edge in fps games. I do use a "ips panel" 27 inch 1440p at 240fps. Ips panels are the best monitors for fps games. This monitor is super fast. There are a number of them. Plenty to pick from. I'd go any sized(whatever size he wants)"ips panel" monitor that supports 240fps for a maximum edge. I always used Asus monitors but this newest one I have is a Sansui 1440p 240fps 27in. Good price, super fast response time and a great picture.

This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 9:12 pm
Posted by hwyman108
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 12:42 am to
FPS and visual mainly
Posted by Goalie
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 12:48 am to
Well for fps he will love changing his settings to "hyper x" for his graphics card and in bios he can even click to premade gaming tweaks called cpu boost and xmp 1 for gaming. My fps on call of duty bo6 runs at 350 to 400 frames using a 1440p monitor. Its pretty incredible tbh. When i shoot at people and kill them, most of the time they aren't even seeing me yet because the frames are so fast they cant even react. I've even tweaked my settings to get 500 fps. The sweet spot though is around 300 to 350. Other settings on Adrenaline can be adjusted for a chilled experience and super high resolutions. I went from a series x to this pc and there is literally no comparison. This pc blows any console out of the water.

Fyi, to think someone is downvoting some good advice on the "gaming forum" is wild.
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 1:07 am
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 10:05 am to
My only advice is to get everything but the GPU.

Wait for prices to stabilize a bit on those. After that, get either a 5070ti or 9070/xt.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 11:55 am to
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This build is a beast gaming pc. He will love this pc. It's equivalent to probably a 4090 or at least a 4080 super. All under 3k.


4090 is 2x faster in cyberpunk.


What in the crackhead frick are you smoking?
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 1:36 pm to
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Fyi, to think someone is downvoting some good advice on the "gaming forum" is wild.

I didn't downvote you, but I would say your posts are a bit mixed. The parts list is ok, but I find the suggestion of a 7900x to be a bit puzzling and the 7900xtx is both very difficult to find and no longer a great value in 2025. Beyond that, you gave vastly more "after build" advice than advice on the build itself, which people can find intimidating and off-putting. And that's to say nothing of the very odd advice of using MSI Afterburner to "tune" his CPU, which Afterburner isn't capable of doing, and even if it could, wouldn't be a good idea. Then there's a ton of discussion that's hyper specific to competitive online first person shooters which, to my knowledge, we haven't actually established that the kid plays? Or did I miss something?

Not trying to shite on your advice or anything; more conversation is good. Just addressing what could be considered to be a ramping up of incivility
Posted by Goalie
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 10:40 am to
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7900x to be a bit puzzling and the 7900xtx is both very difficult to find and no longer a great value in 2025.
its an excellent choice and what my pc is made from. It's a flawless beast. I'm going off his 3k limit. He will spend under that because I paid 2300 for mine to build. How could this not be a good deal?


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gave vastly more "after build" advice than advice on the build itself, which people can find intimidating and off-putting
um isnt the OP also full grown man? Ok got it.


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MSI Afterburner to "tune" his CPU, which Afterburner isn't capable of doing, and even if it could, wouldn't be a good idea.
yes it does and yes it's okay to use "what you pay for". If you know bios then you would know that inside an msi motherboard using the already configured cpu boost selection and xmp profile 1, which are simple icon tweaks and these are already configured selections that allows the owner to get what he has paid for. There are no adjustments on voltage which is where people shorten the life of a pc. So yes afterburner can toggle t his on or off and will monitor these mods if you do them in your bios specifically. This is absolutely safe.


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did I miss something?
he said his son plays fps games.

We good, I would never give unsafe advice.



Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:29 am to
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its an excellent choice and what my pc is made from. It's a flawless beast. I'm going off his 3k limit. He will spend under that because I paid 2300 for mine to build. How could this not be a good deal?

If gaming is your primary usage case, the 7900x doesn't make sense. The 7900x gets trounced in gaming by the 7800x3D for roughly the same price and the 7800x is equivalent in performance for cheaper. And that's just staying same gen, to say nothing of going with one of the 9000 series chips. And while the 7900xtx is a great card, paying $1,200-$1,400 for one in 2025 is vastly overpaying for what you get.
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yes it does and yes it's okay to use "what you pay for". If you know bios then you would know that inside an msi motherboard using the already configured cpu boost selection and xmp profile 1, which are simple icon tweaks and these are already configured selections that allows the owner to get what he has paid for. There are no adjustments on voltage which is where people shorten the life of a pc. So yes afterburner can toggle t his on or off and will monitor these mods if you do them in your bios specifically. This is absolutely safe.


This isn't responsive to what I said. Yes, you can turn on XMP/EXPO within the motherboard's EUFI. No, you can't do that with MSI Afterburner. Because while you can certainly monitor your CPU through Afterburner (via RivaTuna), Afterburner is for tweaking GPUs, not CPUs. Are you mistaking MSI Afterburner for something else? Further, and this is the "not a good idea" part: tweaks to CPU and RAM should only be done in BIOS/EUFI so that no matter how fricked things get, you can always clear CMOS. Using a post-boot program to modify either is just asking for problems if you find yourself unstable and in a boot loop.
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he said his son plays fps games.

I interpreted "FPS and visual mainly" as his focus was frame rate and graphics settings, but if I misinterpreted, that's on me.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:55 am to
Dafuq is this?
Posted by Goalie
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:58 pm to
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The 7900x gets trounced in gaming by the 7800x3D f
absolutely INCORRECT

The Ryzen 9 7900X and Ryzen 7 7800X3D have similar gaming performance, but the 7800X3D uses 50W less power. Not to mention the 7900x is about 100 bucks cheaper. Im also interested a higher overclocking cpu default stat which is better than the 3D to tune in on the games i play. The 7900X has more cores and threads, which gives it an advantage in productivity tasks. The 7900X also has superior turbo clocks, which results in higher frame rates. However, the 7800X3D is better for minecraft or cyberpunk gaming, especially when compared to the 7900X unless you are using an FPS game. Soooo, congrats on saving 2 dollars a month on your electric bill. when it comes to benchmarking fps games you want your gpubto max out tbw so in all honestly cpu isn't really important unless you none fast paced games.

All you had to do was offer your cpu/graphics card set up as an option and not shite on my rig of which I absolutely love and being im more interested in fps(first person shooter games, which you obviously don't play to even understand where im at with) than having the king of gaming with a 3d picture so I can see a lady bug in "color" cross map.


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Afterburner is for tweaking GPUs, not CPUs.
incorrect, altho you can monitor some gpu functions on afterburner i use it for bios on mother board. I use amd adrenaline for my 7900xtx 24 gig grahpics card. I can see all of cpu info also on it but i don't use the adrenaline for cpu tweaks. Say want but i know exactly what I do on my rig. Trying to piss on my set up and call me a liar just tells me all I need to know. :lol: anyone who plays first person shooter would know immediately that your gpu is key in these types of games, not the cpu tbw. BTW why would i use afterburner tbw to tweak a different name brand gpu when the said gpu has its on app specifically for it. Smh even if i didn't want to use afterburner , I could simply use the msi center app, to get into bios.

Fps games like call of duty, valerant, apex, fortnight(altho 3rd person) are what im referencing and why i put together this rig the way i did. Ive play on COD and MLB the show. On COD I use the advanced settings for maximum frames per second. On mlb I switch back to default settings cause I don't need it. A kid who plays first person shooter , I know for a fact will want to make those adjustments when gaming. All I did was suggest my rig, ive done nothing wrong to steer the op in the wrong direction and for you to say otherwise is stupid. Peace im done here.
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:18 pm to
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absolutely INCORRECT

The Ryzen 9 7900X and Ryzen 7 7800X3D have similar gaming performance, but the 7800X3D uses 50W less power. Not to mention the 7900x is about 100 bucks cheaper. The 7900X has more cores and threads, which gives it an advantage in productivity tasks. The 7900X also has superior turbo clocks, which results in higher frame rates. However, the 7800X3D is better for minecraft or cyberpunk gaming, especially when compared to the 7900X unless you are using an FPS game. Soooo, congrats on saving 2 dollars a month on your electric bill.


The 7800x3D beats the brakes off of the 7900x. The 7700x is the rough equivalent at a lower price point: LINK

The 7800x3D is currently $400.
The 7900x is currently $358.
The 7700x is currently is $275.

If you want gaming performance, get the 7800x3D. If you want to save money, get the 7700x. Sure, if you want better productivity performance, get the 7900x, but literally no one up to this point has mentioned high end productivity as a concern.
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All you had to do was offer your cpu/graphics card set up as an option and not shite on my rig of which I absolutely love and being im more interested in fps(first person shooter games, which you obviously don't play to even understand where im at with) than having the king of gaming with a 3d picture so I can see a lady bug in "color" cross map.

This is just word salad. Are you ok? And I never shite on your rig; I said I thought it wasn't necessarily a great parts list to suggest in 2025. Not a big deal and I'm not sure why it's put on you tilt.
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incorrect, altho you can monitor some gpu functions on afterburner i use it for bios on mother board. I use amd adrenaline for my 7900xtx 24 gig grahpics card. I can see all of cpu info also on it but i don't use the adrenaline for cpu tweaks. Say want but i know exactly what I do on my rig. Trying to piss on my set up and call me a liar just tells me all I need to know. anyone who plays first person shooter would know immediately that your gpu is key in these types of games, not the cpu tbw.

I'm not calling you a liar; I'm saying you're wrong. And frankly, I did so pretty damned politely in my last post. You don't use MSI Afterburner to tweak your CPU. Period, full stop. It doesn't have that capability. Again, I'm being kind and assuming you're simply making a mistake, but your obstinance on the subject is starting to test my patience a bit.
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Fps games like call of duty, valerant, apex, fortnight(altho 3rd person) are what im referencing and why i put together this rig the way i did. Ive play on COD and MLB the show. On COD I use the advanced settings for maximum frames per second. On mlb I switch back to default settings cause I don't need it. A kid who plays first person shooter , I know for a fact will want to make those adjustments when gaming. All I did was suggest my rig, ive done nothing wrong to steer the op in the wrong direction and for you to say otherwise is stupid. Peace im done here.

*rubs temples*

Sure mate, you've got it all figured out. Your build is flawless
Posted by Goalie
Used to be San Diego now West Texas
Member since Jan 2025
557 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:24 pm to
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MSI Afterburner to tweak your CPU
your right, I tweak my "motherboard bios" to set my cpu to game mode or boost settings in afterburner or msi center or i can do it manually. I don't use afterburner to change my cpu directly lol. I could do this in the standard msi center . I know because I've done all three different ways.
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 1:30 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:32 pm to
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your right, I tweak my motherboard "bios" to set my cpu to game mode or boost settings. Again your wrong. I could do this in the standard msi center . I know because I've done both.

Afterburner doesn't have a "game mode". Please post a screenshot with what you believe to be MSI Afterburner open on screen.

And "Game Mode" in MSI Center doesn't actually do anything to "tweak" the CPU beyond switching the Windows profile to performance mode.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:07 pm to
OP, just to bring us back:

Try to get confirmation on exactly what kind of monitor your son is looking for, and try to get a list of at least 2-3 games that he plays. Knowing that will help us balance components and balance cost against the monitor
Posted by Goalie
Used to be San Diego now West Texas
Member since Jan 2025
557 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:55 pm to
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have a "game mode
i never said it did. You can access your bios and click on cpu boost and xmp using afterburner or msi center. Do you have a msi motherboard? Yiu must not because, Then you would know you can do this
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
29859 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:58 pm to
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i never said it did. You can access your bios and click on cpu boost and xmp using afterburner or msi center. Do you have a msi motherboard? Yiu must not because, Then you would know you can do this

I have an MSI x570 Unify.

Now please post a screenshot with what you believe to be MSI Afterburner open on screen.
Posted by Goalie
Used to be San Diego now West Texas
Member since Jan 2025
557 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:59 pm to
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4090 is 2x faster in cyberpunk.
i never said it wasn't. Your using the crack pipe. Nerds unite getting mad
Posted by Goalie
Used to be San Diego now West Texas
Member since Jan 2025
557 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:01 pm to
I use my phone on here. Don't know how to post a screen shot here. It's almost insulting the way you post it. Utube it that's how i learned it
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