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Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:02 pm to
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:02 pm to
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They are all .n64 files I believe


Most N64 ROMs don't DL in the proper form. You'll have to extract them to pull out the correct file. Even after, N64 games are hit & miss. I just added N64 games for the first time within the last week because of this. Out of the 8 or so I tried, only 5 actually worked. So it may not be that you're doing anything wrong.

I know Mario 64, Donkey Kong, both Zelda's and Mario kart 64 all work on mine. Any other games will just be trial & error.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
33276 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:25 pm to
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You'll have to extract them to pull out the correct file


sorry to ask a stupid question, but how do i do that?
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5351 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:36 pm to
Use winwar, 7zip, or whatever file extraction program you used to setup Retropie. Just right click the ROM after you download it and select extract.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
33276 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:00 pm to
Ok that worked. I notice the sound can be choppy. I'm guessing that's because the higher end the game the rougher the cut?
Is that the case if I keep going up to sega cd and Saturn, etc?

I would assume arcade isn't that bad
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5351 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:16 am to
That's just the nature of N64 games. Some the sound may not work properly. Others might have gameplay lag & slow downs. Others just might not work at all, etc...For instance, my Mario 64 seems to run well, but there is a small graphical glitch where Mario's hat changes from red to white depending the angle he is to the camera. Both Zelda games seem to run well though. I am not sure why some 64 games emulate better than others. Google overclock settings for the RP3. It's a way to push your raspberry to maximum performance, but it can also burn it out faster due to overheating. Risk/reward. But many users overclock their systems to get better performance for 64 games and other emulators that are glitchy on default settings.

Sega Cd games are known to have issues. Not sure about Saturn. Arcade games run pretty well, you just have to make sure you place them in the correct emulator because there are quite a few arcade emulators to choose from. Also, most cd consoles (ps one, Sega cd, etc) and arcade games need a BIOS file to run. Same process as adding roms: DL the correct BIOS file just like you would a game rom but transfer it into the BIOS folder on retropie instead of one of the emulator files.

Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
33276 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 1:25 pm to
I need to research how to do the bios and command and configure stuff

Everything I've read talks about going back and configuring RP, etc but I never know how to even get to that screen. Every time I power it on it goes to retoropie screen with my systems.
Posted by DieDaily
West of a white house
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:46 am to
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Is that the case if I keep going up to sega cd and Saturn, etc?
Sega CD (and Sega CD 32X) works fine. I've pretty much got all of the Sega CD games that are worth playing on my Pi. Turbo CD also works, though I've only played Castlevania: Rondo of Blood, which is one of the few games worth playing for that system.

Playstation emulation is also perfect or near perfect for the major titles.

Because the Saturn was so difficult to program for (it had 8 processors) and not terribly popular, Saturn emulation is far behind most systems. It doesn't even emulate well on more powerful modern PC's. Don't bother there.

PS1 / N64 is the limit of what the Raspberry Pi can do. Some Dreamcast games also run but none at what I would deem playable. That is, unless you can tolerate lots of slow down and stuttering sound.

As TTownTiger mentioned, you will need BIOS files for the above systems and they will need to be placed in the appropriate folder(s). The paths for that can be found on the GitHub pages for each system.

Sega CD
Turbo CD (PC Engine CD outside the US)
Playstation 1

As far as "configuring" Retropie, you really should only be dragging and dropping files in various locations to get the above systems to work. Nothing else should be required from a "configuration" standpoint. To do that I recommend an FTP client for your PC like FileZilla or Cyberduck if you're on Mac. Get your Pi on your home network via wireless and you can use FileZilla to ftp into your Pi to drag and drop files in without having to remove your micro SD card, etc. You'll need the IP address of your Pi on your home network which you can get from the RetroPie "system" in the main RetroPie menu (the one with all the systems listed). There is a "Show IP Address" selection in there.

Put the IP address into your FTP software along with the user name "pi" and the password "raspberry" (no quotes).

More detailed instructions for that can be found here.
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5351 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:58 am to
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I need to research how to do the bios


I know at emuparadise whenever you select a game, it'll link all other files that you need to DL with it on the same page. So select an arcade game and on the same page as that download will be a link to the BIOS file. Just DL the BIOS file and copy/paste it in the BIOS folder the same way you would transfer a game rom over to the correct emulator.

quote:

I've read talks about going back and configuring RP, etc but I never know how to even get to that screen. Every time I power it on it goes to retoropie screen with my systems.


Very basic rundown:

Whenever you google or youtube things (like customization options), try to read the most recent articles and not something from 2013 for the most part. In early versions of this program, users needed to write command lines to get all customization done. But now as retropie has become more advanced, most of the customization options you are trying to do is located right in the main menu under the retropie option. So scroll through your emulators until you get to retropie and open it. From there play around and go through each option as each one contains things you can change like graphics settings & screen resolution, change themes so the menus look different, change splash screen (the boot up screen that shows after you turn on your raspberry pi), set up a blue tooth controller, etc... you can do this all from the main menu now. You might not understand a lot of the terminology at first, but you can always google what each option does and from there you'll start getting the hang of it.

Anyways, The screen you auto-load to with all of the emulators is called emulation station. So if you ever see that term used, it's the screen with all of the emulators that you go to first when turning the system on.

Occasionally you'll have to leave emulation station for customization, like with using the sselph scraper I mentioned earlier in the thread. So just hit start>quit>quit emulation station and confirm you really want to. That'll close out the screen with the emulators and bring you to the black program screen where you can write command lines. So for the sselph scraper, here is where you'd write the command line "sudo /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/retropie_setup.sh". Then just follow the directions on the link I provided earlier and you can set up that scraper. You'll have to leave emulation station and type in that command line every time to use that scraper though.

Another thing you can do here is check how many GBs are used/available on your micro sd card by typing in "DF". Or "DF -H" (one space between the F and the -) which is what I use because it breaks down your card usage even further than the regular "DF" line.

That's just two of the easy command lines that you'll probably use often, but there are tons of shite you can do here - a lot of which is way over my head too. I try not to get too involved with writing commands here unless it is something that I REALLY want to do. But for the most part, there isn't too much that I personally needed to do in here. Setting up a silent boot during the system start up is probably the most technical thing I tried to do and that wasn't very difficult.

So if youre researching customization and it requires you to write a command line, quitting emulation station (again, by pressing start and then quit) will get you to the correct screen. If at any time you are here and aren't sure what to do, just type in "emulationstation" on a new line and it'll bring you back to the initial load up screen with all of your emulators.
But most of the basic setup you are probably trying to do right now is located in the retropie option within emulation station as I mentioned earlier.

If there is something you're specifically trying to do and cant figure it out, post it here and I am sure someone will try to answer it.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 9:24 am
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5351 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:02 am to
quote:

Sega CD (and Sega CD 32X) works fine. I've pretty much got all of the Sega CD games that are worth playing on my Pi

Hmmm. I thought there was trouble with that system so I never really tried. I may have to look into it now.
Posted by DieDaily
West of a white house
Member since Mar 2010
2649 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:12 am to
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Hmmm. I thought there was trouble with that system so I never really tried. I may have to look into it now.
Though, I haven't played any of them to completion on my Raspberry Pi, I've successfully played decent chunks of:

Sonic CD
Snatcher
Spider-Man
Heart of the Alien
Mansion of Hidden Souls
Rise of the Dragon
The Adventures of Willy Beamish
Jurassic Park
Night Trap (32X version)
(...and a few others I can't think of at the moment)

I actually owned a Sega CD back in the day along with most of the games mentioned above and the emulation is spot on as far as I can tell.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24294 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 2:44 pm to
Just added the Sega Master System entire catalog as well as the game gear. The Master System has some really good graphics and color way better than NES imo.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 2:45 pm
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5351 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 2:52 pm to
Have you played around with any of the shaders available in the retropie options menu? Quite a few of them smooth out the pixels in the older systems so that they aren't as bad. I forget which one I applied to NES, but it basically smoothed out the graphics without making them look blurry. NES games look great for me now.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 2:53 pm
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24294 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 3:36 pm to
No I haven't. I need to learn how.
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5351 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:02 pm to
Here you go - shaders

Select retropie and follow this:
quote:

You can select either preset via the Configuration editor. Choose Configure basic libretro emulator options , then choose a specific emulator or Configure default options for all libretro emulators to make the change system-wide. Then, set Video Shader Enable to true and then set Video Shader File to the desired shader.


If you select Video Shader File and it is blank with no shader files available, then you have to install them. You don't have to do anything special to do this, just click the install option which should be on your screen. If your RP3 is connected to your wifi, it'll do the rest by itself. After it installs the shader files, you'll have about 30 different options to choose from. If you want to get rid of the heavy pixilation that the NES roms have from the start, quite a few shader options available will smooth the edges out and make the games look updated or more faithful to how you remember them.


Posted by DieDaily
West of a white house
Member since Mar 2010
2649 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

The Master System has some really good graphics and color way better than NES imo.
The Master System was more powerful from a video perspective but the NES had a better sound chip.

You can see demonstrations of this by comparing games that were on both systems like Rampage and Double Dragon (which is 2 player on the SMS unlike its NES counterpart).
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
33276 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:35 pm to
great feedback guys. Geez thats a lot of info, i might need to take a sick day and stay home to get everything right. lol


I had a Master System growing up and it was better to look at , but i like the NES catelog better


Also, not a huge dealer- but in retropie it has the Genesis as SEGA Mega Drive. Any way to change the name?
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5351 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:00 pm to
Go play with themes in the retropie settings. Click the retropie settings and then click ES Themes. There are quite a few to choose from that will change how all of your menus look and change how emulation station looks. Some themes call it Sega genesis and others call in Sega mega drive. You have to install the theme first to view it. I have the zoid theme loaded on mine and that one has Sega Genesis listed instead of Mega Drive.

Some themes take effect immediately after you go back to emulation station. Some you have to press start and restart emulation station and they'll be loaded when it reboots.

Here is the zoid theme in action. Of course your setup will only show the emulators that you have roms in. LINK

But try them all out until you find the one you like best.
Posted by DieDaily
West of a white house
Member since Mar 2010
2649 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:02 am to
A note on themes: Be careful experimenting with various themes if you have more than 10 systems in your systems list. Having more than 10 systems can cause some themes to produce the "white screen of death" which is a really dramatic name for something with a really simple fix. Essentially when you turn your Raspberry Pi on, you'll just get a white screen and nothing else.

Here is more info on it with the fix:
LINK

I've had it happen before and it's not a big deal, but if you aren't comfortable editing configuration files yet, it could be a bit of a hassle.

ETA: Oh, and the bottom of this page has instructions on how to change it from Megadrive to Genesis. I will note, however, that this isn't how I changed it on mine. I simply did a find / replace on "Megadrive" in the "es_systems.cfg" file and it began showing up as "Genesis" with the appropriate logo. However, that might be an old method.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 9:12 am
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5351 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:44 am to
Added a few sega cd games last night and they all seemed to work (at least the sega cd logo and opening credits ran smoothly - didn't have time to test gameplay). I am curious how well the FMV games will run during actual gameplay as most of the ones I added were FMV.

I swear I read somewhere Sega Cd was buggy, but maybe it was an older article for previous RP versions that I was looking at and didn't realize it. So thanks for mentioning they work.
Posted by DieDaily
West of a white house
Member since Mar 2010
2649 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:59 am to
quote:

I am curious how well the FMV games will run during actual gameplay as most of the ones I added were FMV.
They should run fine. I played more Night Trap than I'd like to admit and that "game" is nothing but FMV.
quote:

So thanks for mentioning they work.

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