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re: Wine experts-West coast v. European reds

Posted on 3/18/22 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 2:14 pm to
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Is dry the opposite of sweet?


Essentially, yes.

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Or better said, can you have a dry fruit forward full bodied red (cab for example) that can also be dry?


Technically yes, but it’s hard to really express fruit without any sweetness, especially with red wines. Little easier with white wines, where you can have relatively dry wines with heavy green apple, etc. But usually, if you have enough fruit to be considered fruit forward, you’re not going to really describe the wine as dry, even if you wouldn’t describe it as sweet, either. I’ve heard people use the descriptor “wet” for a wine that didn’t feel astringent but also wasn’t really sweet.
Posted by LSU Delts
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 2:07 am to
My favorite Malbec wines all come from Argentina.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 7:35 am to
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if you have enough fruit to be considered fruit forward, you’re not going to really describe the wine as dry,


Got it.
How would one describe a wine that is fruit forward but then has a finish that I describe as dry.
Maybe I am not using the right term.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 7:53 am to
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Got it.
How would one describe a wine that is fruit forward but then has a finish that I describe as dry.
Maybe I am not using the right term.


Describe the sensation you mean. If I’m throwing a dart, I think you’re probably looking for tannic, or maybe just acidic.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 7:58 am to
Maybe tannic. Not acidic. More of a mouth feel than taste. Opposite of syrupy where your mouth feels coated.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 8:00 am to
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Maybe tannic. Not acidic. More of a mouth feel than taste. Opposite of syrupy where your mouth feels coated.


That prickling feeling that feels like it’s actively drying out your mouth? That’s tannic.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 8:20 am to
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That prickling feeling that feels like it’s actively drying out your mouth? That’s tannic.


That’s it!
Thanks. I will quit telling people a wine is dry. Haha!
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 8:29 am to
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That’s it!
Thanks. I will quit telling people a wine is dry. Haha!


Haha all good. Yeah, a lot of wine "knowledge" is just learning the vocabulary. Tannins aren't "bad"; they are considered part of a balanced wine, but they can certainly run away on you. And personally, I don't enjoy tannic wines, outside of specific food pairings.

Little quick hit on tannins in wine, but there are literal books on the subject: LINK
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 8:36 am to
French, argentine and chilean

Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 9:26 am to
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How would one describe a wine that is fruit forward but then has a finish that I describe as dry. Maybe I am not using the right term.


Those are tannins. They soften with age.
This post was edited on 3/19/22 at 9:27 am
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