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re: Need help decided what grill/smoker to get

Posted on 10/12/24 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by voodoosillyman
Member since Jan 2005
427 posts
Posted on 10/12/24 at 12:36 pm to
100% agree with a PK. I have the 300, but never an issue cleaning. I use it for grilling hot and fast for steaks, burgers whatever and hold temp perfectly for 2 zone smoking. I did get the grill grates and it came with free carbon steel plate for griddle action. I am very pleased with my PK.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11656 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

100% agree with a PK. I have the 300, but never an issue cleaning. I use it for grilling hot and fast for steaks, burgers whatever and hold temp perfectly for 2 zone smoking. I did get the grill grates and it came with free carbon steel plate for griddle action. I am very pleased with my PK.


Have you smoked anything on it?
Posted by CHGAR
Haile, LA
Member since Aug 2022
1220 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 6:20 pm to
quote:


WSM is on my list. But would I be able to grill steaks?


Take the center piece off ang set a grill grate over the base piece. It's close enough to heat to get good grilling results.

Might be out of your stated price range but I recommend giving the Primo kamados a look.
Posted by Sixafan
Member since Aug 2023
947 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 7:10 pm to
Weber smokey mountain.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 4:49 am to
quote:

Looks like it has a hopper and can get up to 700 degrees.

Pellet smokers aren’t destined to do high heat like this

I highly suggest not to get a pellet smoker thinking you can use it like a grill. They are marketed that way but they aren’t designed that way
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9515 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:04 am to
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Terrible for a smoker.


The dual walled steel works great as a smoker and I would say better than a ceramic since it isn’t so efficient that it smolders. I can get 36 hours plus at 250 ish on one load of fuel on my Weber Kamado.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9515 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:07 am to
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Nobody's beating Kamado Joe's gas-assisted hinge.


Weber Kamado doesn’t even need this since the lid is made of steel and way lighter than a ceramic.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
74729 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:16 am to
You'll be able to convince someone to change who they pray to and/or spend eternity before you convince someone that 1) the CFB team they root for is trash and 2) What it takes to make good BBQ.

That Weber "Kamado" looks like a giant Yeti cup.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9515 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:24 am to
quote:

You'll be able to convince someone to change who they pray to and/or spend eternity before you convince someone that 1) the CFB team they root for is trash and 2) What it takes to make good BBQ. That Weber "Kamado" looks like a giant Yeti cup.


I agree. Just trying to steer the OP in a great direction. I love the way mine looks and love the way it performs. I feel the steel is superior to the ceramic in almost every way.

1) doesn’t crack and don’t have to worry about it breaking

2) easy to move around the patio

3) can use lump or briquettes

4) don’t have to worry about over shooting your temps as it is much easier to bring it down in temp

5) burns cleaner smoke because it isn’t so efficient that the fire smolders

6) cheaper

7) much easier ash management system

8) no firebox that needs replacement

This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 10:27 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86319 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:39 am to
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but heard the Masterbilt Gravity Series is great.
This is the way. Until someone builds this type of machine better, I will always have one. My tricked out offset just sits there with nothing to do.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
74729 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:40 am to
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6) cheaper


If the retail price is in line with the MSRP from what I saw on the Weber website, it gives all indication of being every bit as expensive as the more traditional ceramic Kamado brands without the cache.

Lighter and easier to move says "blow the frick away in a bad storm" or at a minimum, fall over and get dented.

With one of the knocks against BGE being their fire box/ring being prone to breakage, I think that KJ's modular fire box design is absolutely brilliant. Should something happen to one of the individual pieces, just replace the one section.




Cooking with charcoal briquettes in a $1k+ smoker is equivalent to sitting down to pee.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9515 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:49 am to
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If the retail price is in line with the MSRP from what I saw on the Weber website, it gives all indication of being every bit as expensive as the more traditional ceramic Kamado brands without the cache.


Weber Kamado is $1,250
Big Joe is $2-3k

quote:

Lighter and easier to move says "blow the frick away in a bad storm" or at a minimum, fall over and get dented.


It still weighs 142 pounds. Mine made it through Hurricane Ida without tipping over. You’ve obviously never seen one in person.

quote:

Cooking with charcoal briquettes in a $1k+ smoker is equivalent to sitting down to pee.


I’ve tried all kinds of lump. Still much prefer briquettes. Good thing is I have an option with the Weber.
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
3261 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:42 am to
quote:

That Weber "Kamado" looks like a giant Yeti cup.


It’s a legit Kamado. I have a BGE and would trade mine in a heartbeat.

quote:

Masterbilt Gravity Series


Do a deeper dive. People have posted pictures here of them rusting out.

Lastly, Pellet grills are for women. Sorry, not sorry.
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 11:43 am
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
74729 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:47 am to
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Lastly, Pellet grills are for women. Sorry, not sorry.

It's the BBQ version of sharing your pronouns.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11656 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:00 pm to
Guys,

Thanks for all of the input. I've decided to go with the PK360 and get an aftermarket Gamechanger Heat Deflector.

After extensive research (probably 50 youtube reviews) and this thread...I've settled on this grill because it will

1. Last a long time
2. Give me real charcoal smoke flavor
3. Wont require a plug
4. Is the right size to feed my family of 5

It lacks the convenience of the pellet grill/smoker but in the grand scheme of things, it can get to temp almost as fast. The Weber Searwood gets to temp the fastest at 13 minutes but a charcoal grill is ready in about 25 minutes...the difference is about 1 beer in my backyard.

Thanks for helping me find a premium grill/smoker. Maybe one day I'll splurge and get a 1/4" steel stick burner when the kids are gone to college.

/thread
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86319 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:30 pm to
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Do a deeper dive. People have posted pictures here of them rusting out.
My first cook with mine was on 7/11/21. Mine has zero rust. I have had 2 or 3 error codes that mostly dealt with debris blocking something. All fixed in under 1 minute.
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
3261 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 4:52 pm to
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My first cook with mine was on 7/11/21. Mine has zero rust. I have had 2 or 3 error codes that mostly dealt with debris blocking something. All fixed in under 1 minute.


Well I guess it was fake news / AI images.

“Error codes” on a BBQ pit. Lmao.
Posted by voodoosillyman
Member since Jan 2005
427 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:26 pm to
Sorry for the late response. Yes, i have smoked tons of items. Chicken thighs, 8 pound pork butt and most recently beef dino ribs. Keep in mind, with such a small cooking chamber for a smoker, the actual cooking time is usually much less as oppsed to an offset. But it does awesome as a smoker
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86319 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:50 am to
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“Error codes” on a BBQ pit. Lmao.
Why is this funny?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
107911 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 10:53 pm to
Grills Grills mammoth, yes pellet, but you can smoke chunk wood right on top of fire box.
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