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re: Need a how to make a loaf of bread recipe

Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by TastyJibblets
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:10 pm to
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I sell 80-100 loaves

Where do you sell your bread?
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:14 pm to
Please don’t start with that recipe. It is mediocre to bad. Too much yeast, outdated technique. Dunno why she calls it “French” bread, either. If you want to make a hearth style bread (ie, cooked on a stone, without a pan), try this: LINK

If you want a thicker, crustier bread, you will need to bake a wetter loaf loaf inside a Dutch oven. The relatively wet dough steams itself inside the closed pot, giving results similar to commercial steam injected ovens. Try this recipe: LINK

All of the KA Flour website is full of great baking info. On top of that, KA has an actual baking hotline answered by people: you eff something up, call them, they will help you troubleshoot. Finally, The Fresh Loaf site is full of very helpful people who are happy to help newbies: LINK Including a scattering of ppl from Louisiana.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:15 pm to
Used to sell at a farmers market. On break right now.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:21 pm to
Great resources, hungry. Where could I buy a stone? That first recipe is the one I'll start with.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 1:05 pm to
Buy a stone or, even better, a baking steel easily online through Sur La Table or Williams Sonoma or your favorite online kitchenware retailer. Or direct from Baking Steel.

But I encourage you to try the Dutch oven method. That’s my go to. And a Dutch oven is a more versatile purchase than a baking Stone.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 1:34 pm to
I want to make that "hearth-baked" recipe tonight. Would I have bad results using a basic metal sheet pan? I will buy the proper gear later.

ETA: I already have a Dutch oven.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 1:35 pm
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 1:42 pm to
Sheet pan will be fine, but you won’t get as much oven spring nor will the loaf be quite as crusty. So much of baking in a home oven is about heat transfer and thermal mass—the reason for a stone is that it traps and holds more heat than the thin sheet pan. So more heat to release into your loaf, making it expand more quickly (oven spring);before the crust sets firmly and puts an end to the expansion. A closed cast iron Dutch oven doubles the effect: high thermal mass, plus an enclosed space to trap steam, which keeps the crust flexible longer, so max oven spring, and creates a more distinct, crisp crust.

An old school enameled steel GraniteWare pot or turkey roaster is usually easy to find at WalMart, cheap, and gives great results. Lighter and easier to manage than a cast iron pot, too. I bought the big, oblong one so I can make two batards (oblong footballs) side by side, rather than being limited to just boules as in a round Dutch oven.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:21 am to
Circling back to post the Serious Eats beginners guide to bread making: LINK
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18769 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 12:16 pm to
I started two batches of dough this morning. Gonna test whether I can appreciate the difference between a quick-rise version and one that slowly rises overnight.

First is a quick version of no knead. 3 cups AP flour, whole 1/4 ounce packet of instant yeast, 1.5 tsp salt, 1.5 cups warm water. Needs only 4 hours for the first rise.

Second is a Jim Lahey recipe. 3 cups bread or AP flour, only 1/4 teaspoon instant yeast, 1 1/4 tsp salt, 1 1/3 cups water. The big differences are way less yeast and way more first rise time: at least 12 and preferably 18 hours. The recipe says the "long, slow fermentation is what yields the bread’s rich flavor." LINK

Going to bake both in a Dutch oven.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 12:56 pm to
That’s a good comparison. Nothing is wrong with either method/recipe—experiment is what will improve your technique. My most favorite loaves get an overnight shaped rise in the fridge—a more pronounced sour flavor, thicker crust, and longer keeping qualities.
Posted by Dale Doubak
Somewhere
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/20/20 at 1:05 pm to
Great now they’ll be a rush on these ingredients
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
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Posted on 3/20/20 at 2:34 pm to
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Great now they’ll be a rush on these ingredients


I can't find King Arthur in BR. Anyone seen any?
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 2:39 pm to
You don’t need KA brand. Gold Medal or Pillsbury or Bobs Red Mill—-any AP flour will work fine. I did notice that Walmart was sold out of flour on Wed. Try smaller stores or independents which seem to be restocking more quickly.

For ppl in NO, if you want a big quantity, Koerner baking on Jeff Highway in old Jefferson will sell you a 50 lb sack of KA for about $18. You don’t need a wholesale license. Order via the Koerner website and select will call; they will bring it to your vehicle curbside. A 50 lb sack of flour will fit into two 22 quart Cambro tubs for storage.
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 2:44 pm
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 2:41 pm to
Also, Sams and Restaurant Depot sell 1 lb vac sealed bricks of instant yeast. Keep it in the freezer, it lasts forever (like a year). Way cheaper than the jars or sachets.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/20/20 at 2:59 pm to
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instant yeast.


Ya'll can have that stuff. I'm a sourdough snob.

I understand I don't need KA flour--it's my go to.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18769 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 3:00 pm to
Loaf No. 1 (Quick Rise) is on the cooling rack for a couple of hours. Braved a trip to Whole Foods for some Kerrygold butter to slather on later.

Preheated oven to 450 with a 7.25 qt Dutch oven inside(with metal knob; no melting). Put the dough on parchment paper and sat it in the pot. Lid on for 30 minutes, then lid off for 15 more mins; Thermapen said bread was 210. I tested it after 12 minutes, but it wasn't quite to temp.

In the pot



On the rack

Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22682 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 3:05 pm to
beautiful man. I'm mixing tonight and baking again tomorrow. Mine are rustic looking like yours, probably because I get lazy with shaping. Still taste good.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 3:10 pm to
Pretty loaf. Wet dough baked in a DO is so dang forgiving. It’s always fun to lift the lid and see what sort of personality has emerged from a puddle of dough.

I like adding soaked sunflower and flax, in part bc the leithicin in the flaxseeds is a natural preservative and it stales much more slowly than without.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 3:22 pm to
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I understand I don't need KA flour--it's my go to.

The organic flour sold in 15 lb lots from Central Milling at Costco is also good stuff.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18769 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 11:19 pm to
Sliced into No. 1. The Kerrygold butter (not shown here) exceeded my expectations. So creamy.

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