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My crawfish etouffee is good but not great. Help!

Posted on 8/17/09 at 11:19 am
Posted by cubsgrace
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2007
1994 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 11:19 am
I always make a cup of light roux and add the holy trinity. I also put rotel, thyme, oregano, bay leaves, garlic, Tony's, salt, pepper, and a little worcheshire.

What other stuff/seasonings do you guys know of that are good in crawfish etouffee? I love the Chime's etouffee. It almost tastes like it has crab and/or parmasean in it. I don't know how people make it taste that dang good, but I've only had it like that a couple times in my life. I need a recipe and some suggestions. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated by my belly. Thanks in advance.

BTW, I have tried pretty much my same recipe but without a roux and without Rotel. It didn't come close to doing the trick.

Posted by TigerSpy
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
9904 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 11:44 am to
what fat are you using to make the roux?
what starch are you using to make the roux?
are you adding the crawfish fat?
are you sauteeing the veggies down first before you make the roux?
Get that damn rotel out of there for one.
Posted by Tbobby
Member since Dec 2006
4358 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 12:01 pm to
I'd omit the rotel and worsterchire and finish it with some butter.
Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 12:12 pm to
Ditch the rotel
Ditch the roux and add cornstarch slurry
Get some crawfish fat

and


BUY LOUISIANA CRAWFISH !!!!
Posted by cubsgrace
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2007
1994 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 12:13 pm to
okay, screw the rotel next time. it's a goner.

I use vegetable oil (99% of the time) or butter in equal parts with the all purpose flour to make the roux.

I add all of the crawfish fat that's in the pack. I use 1 pound frozen tails from Tony's Seafood or Winn Dixie.

I make the roux then add the veggies and cook them for a few minutes until the onions turn a little clear. then i stir in garlic for a minute.
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9214 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

BUY LOUISIANA CRAWFISH !!!!


If possible, use crawfish from a previous boil.
Posted by Pablo
Member since Aug 2009
61 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 12:16 pm to
Use butter for your roux. Deeper flavor especially once it starts to brown. Instead of rotel, use a scoshe of tomato paste (i.e., not ketchup). Otherwise your recipe looks marvelous.

ETA: Try browning onions, etc. longer. You develop a richer, more sustainable flavor by cooking the onions more thoroughly. Don't get carried away, however, and char your onions. Not good my friend.
This post was edited on 8/17/09 at 12:20 pm
Posted by cubsgrace
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2007
1994 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 12:21 pm to
First of all, I did try Chinese crawfish once when I accidently bought it a few years ago. I was terrible and I'll never touch it again. I only buy Louisiana.

I've done the roux with butter and have used a teaspoon or two of tomato paste instead of rotel and my etouffe is always pretty dang good.

The problem is, every time I eat etouffee at the Chimes, it pisses me off because it's so damn good and I can't figure out what they are doing.

Oh, and thank y'all again for all the advice.
Posted by cubsgrace
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2007
1994 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 12:23 pm to
if i ditch the roux, do I sauttee the veggies in butter and add cornstarch to that?

how much butter, how much cornstarch, any special kind of cornstarch?
Posted by andouille
A table near a waiter.
Member since Dec 2004
11112 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 12:23 pm to
Real butter roux is a must, brown it long enough to toast the flour, but not burn the milk solids in the butter. No L+P or Rotels, that is strickly amateur, same for using bacon grease for the roux. I don't use tomato in mine, some do, matter of taste. Never, never, never add any Cream of anything soup, you can taste it a mile away and it says you are a crappy cook.

I sometimes add stock from a pound of seasoned boiled crawfish, spices it up. Etouffe is French for 'smothered', after you brown the vegetable (onion, celery, gr. pepper, gr onion, add your stock and let it smother. Add the tail & fat last.

This post was edited on 8/17/09 at 12:31 pm
Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 12:27 pm to
add the cornstarch at the end after the crawfish.

bout a tablespoon of any cornstarch mixed with a little cold water..depending on how thick you like it.

Add slowly it thickens quickly

And like others said ... nothing but butter.

My grandmother swore Margerine (or Oleo as she called it)worked better and I never proved her wrong...

Also you can't have to many onions.
This post was edited on 8/17/09 at 12:29 pm
Posted by cubsgrace
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2007
1994 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 12:30 pm to
what's up with the no message?
Posted by gjackx
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2007
16563 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

or Oleo as she called it

My parents call it "Oleo", to this day!
Posted by cubsgrace
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2007
1994 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 12:35 pm to
I always use sweet yellow onions. Is there any reason to try a different type of onion?
Posted by panda
Member since Oct 2007
733 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 12:40 pm to
OK i realize this is heresy, but I make etouffee the way my friend's mom in Houma makes it - a "country" etouffee and it dosen't start with a roux.

[Pauses here for flaming and cursing from FDB readers.]

Now. It is over the top delicious and easy as heck. Saute as much of the trinity as you can stand - and I use alot. Nothing beats butter or oleo, i just try not to use so much. Then add water, then thicken with flour and blend until it's smooth paste. So it's sort of a backwards roux I guess. Then the tails, more water, adjust seasonings to taste, let it simmer a bit. OMG it is good and so easy.

And get that rotel outta there! Personally I don't even think that thyme or oregano belong in there either.
Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

sweet yellow onions


Thats all I ever use
Posted by cubsgrace
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2007
1994 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 12:53 pm to
I looked up oleo. Here's what I found.

quote:

In 1869 Emperor Louis Napoleon III of France offered a prize to anyone who could make a satisfactory substitute for butter, suitable for use by the armed forces and the lower classes.[1] French chemist Hippolyte Mège-Mouriés invented a substance he called oleomargarine, the name of which became shortened to the trade name "Margarine". Margarine now refers generically to any of a range of broadly similar edible oils. The name oleomargarine is sometimes abbreviated to oleo.


Source: LINK
Posted by cubsgrace
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2007
1994 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 1:01 pm to
What do y'all think about adding some seafood stock instead of water? I don't know if anybody does this but I'm thinking about trying it.
Posted by andouille
A table near a waiter.
Member since Dec 2004
11112 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 1:12 pm to
I never throw out shrimp shells or crawfish shells without making a stock. It improves all seafood dishes tremendously. If you use shrimp stock in your gumbo I promise you will never go back to adding water.
Posted by TigerSpy
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
9904 posts
Posted on 8/17/09 at 2:47 pm to
use butter only for the roux, and use cornstarch as the starch
saute the veggies in butter until soft and clear first, then sprinkle in the cornstarch and stir for a blonde roux.
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