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re: TDBBL - Draft Tonight @ 8:30 PM Central

Posted on 10/5/09 at 7:27 pm to
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 7:27 pm to
Thats what you're missing BJL....I know that Rick was part of the equation too.


I m telling you that you cant control that aspect of the equation....You only control what you do.

I dont think Rick thought that the difference between the 18th overall pick and the 19th overall was siginificant enough to make a difference to be honest.

I think he felt he was offering you his 2nd round pick, and it was your responsibility to determine the value of his pick.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 7:34 pm to
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Thats what you're missing BJL....I know that Rick was part of the equation too.


first time mentioned.

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I think he felt he was offering you his 2nd round pick, and it was your responsibility to determine the value of his pick.



that's not what happened. He offered me the 16th pick. Not his second rounder. The 16th pick. And then said he messed up and offered me the 18th pick.

It was stated in those terms. Not 2nd rounder.

And then he confirmed via AOL convo that it was the 18th pick.

The point is that regardless of what you think, I was well within my rights to make a complaint and open the situation up to debate. You judge the one pick to be insignificant, i do not.
And I'm not crying about it, I'm defending myself.

if the outcome then would have made ten picks difference, then would it have been overturned? What if I made a trade for a pick that RIck didn't even have?

Like he offered me a 2nd when he didn't even have one. Would it have been my responsibility to know that Rick didn't actually have a 2nd rounder?

You're saying the onus is on me. That's not the truth. In good faith negotiations the onus is on both parties to represent what they have fairly and properly.

It's the same principle.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 7:37 pm to
karma, send me Lopez for the pick you tried ot send me Okafor for
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 7:38 pm to
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karma, send me Lopez for the pick you tried ot send me Okafor for


let me look at that was. I don't value the two the same.
Lopez is pretty much entrenched as my fourth keeper. I'm choosing between parker, allen, and okafor for my fifth.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 7:39 pm to
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I'm choosing between parker, allen, and okafor for my fifth.


Or Devin the Dude
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 7:41 pm to
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Like he offered me a 2nd when he didn't even have one. Would it have been my responsibility to know that Rick didn't actually have a 2nd rounder?



Yes its on you.

If you traded picks for a player prior to the picks being corrected in CBS website then you have to be responsiblle for yourself.


If rick pulled any moves and swindled you, then you have to accept that you got swindled and spread the word that Rick is a swindler.

You had all the tools at your disposal to not allow this to happen.


I am just a big believer in self accountability.

Its not personal...I would be telling anyone the same thing.
This post was edited on 10/5/09 at 7:42 pm
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 7:48 pm to
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Yes its on you.

If you traded picks for a player prior to the picks being corrected in CBS website then you have to be responsiblle for yourself.


If rick pulled any moves and swindled you, then you have to accept that you got swindled and spread the word that Rick is a swindler.

You had all the tools at your disposal to not allow this to happen.


I am just a big believer in self accountability.

Its not personal...I would be telling anyone the same thing


well then we fundamentally disagree. in my book, swindlers are punished, and those being swindled are given back the items swindled them.

oh well.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 7:53 pm to
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in my book, swindlers are punished, and those being swindled are given back the items swindled them.


Yes, he purposly told you that he was sending you the 18th instead of the 19th because he knew that if he lied about it, you would go for it. That 1 spot made the difference.

I think that you realized after Durant, Dirk, and LBJ you are pretty thin. I gave out a good LOL when you said that you thought the guy that you wanted would be there at 18 but no way would he slip to 19.

Come on Karma, you are better than that. I know you moved on, so stop trying to defend it.
This post was edited on 10/5/09 at 7:54 pm
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 7:54 pm to
If a little old lady is swindeled then sure.

If you go play 3 card monte and lose all your money, you have no one to blame but yourself.

The biggest point here is that you gad all the tools available to you to stop this.

And I dont think rick had swindless morives fwiw.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 7:55 pm to
let's just agree to disagree and not talk about this anymore.
the whole situation got way overblown.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:13 pm to
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well the real question is this: Do you want Devin Harris?


sure.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:13 pm to
Similarly to the way you think that carrying on during the tdfl draft and creating all kinds of confusion is funny...I think this is funny too.
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:15 pm to
rick wasnt trying to swindle anyone. he actually imed me and told me what was going on

Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:17 pm to
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karma, send me Lopez for the pick you tried ot send me Okafor for


I don't remember what I offered. and it won't let me look at what I offered.

Port, of course I like harris.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:17 pm to
i know he wasn't. I'm assuming that he was mistaken frady.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:20 pm to
it was a 5th round pick
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:29 pm to
do my keepers suck or sumthin
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:31 pm to
Yes.



Cat, you see Shiancoe got dat TD?


Bout to double you up son.
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:34 pm to
hey guys


i have 3 pfs on my team

duncan
murphy
garnett

i would like to try and move 2 of the three players for either sf or c

i can either give up picks to get a better player, or i will take a pick swap to take on a worse player

i would also like to get back in the first round, and would give multiple third round picks, picks and players, etc

let me know if anyone is interested
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:35 pm to
rondo, i need shiancoe to keep doing work for another league
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