re: FSBDL Slow Draft

Went in thinking it'll be easier to trade for pitching than hitting in this deep of a league.

Good writeups, Gyno

Yeh. I really liked the way you drafted in Votto last year.

Nice work, Gyno.

And I agree with Lester about the DL issue. Makes the most sense to me.

How many teams make playoffs again?

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I look for Chat to make some noise in 2015

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Awesome analysis. Outside of 3-4 teams I see everyone with a shot at playoffs. There's a lot of parity so far in this league.

Argue aboit the DL slot

A few things:

No way Milb players should be allowed on the DL. The Milb DL designations do not happen with the regularity or reporting of MLB guys. Teams sometime keep that information behind a curtain for longer than usual and as Barry said, they do not accrue stats.

The DL issue comes down to two possibilities really - end of year DL designation vs. start of season designation. In other words we should base offseason designation on either the official status at the end of the previous year or wipe the slate clean and force teams to wait for opening day to place hurt guys on the DL.

The problem with the previous choice is THIS YEAR some teams could have taken advantage of this rule by drafting and stashing DL guys during the offesason (it can be taken advantage of any year but more so during this draft). This seems like the fair thing to do from now on but it may not fit for the first draft. If last year I grabbed a player that had no chance of playing (say for instance had TJ) and stashed him on the DL the entire season, it would suck to be required to dump another player just to hold someone in a position he was in for a majority of the previous year.

The issue with the latter choice is that some teams will get screwed because their team doesn't play until later than the teams that have games start a week earlier. Therefore, MLB teams will wait until the last minute to designate DL spots to accommodate or delay potential cuts or other roster moves. This will allow teams that roster a players with a DL designation that also play early to get a head start on the stashing. And as I pointed out above, some teams will be forced to drop another to accommodate the guys that OBVIOUSLY will start the season on the DL. Now we could force the designation ability back to be when all teams have done so, but some teams will be rostering DL guys during the first few games anyway. Also, we chose 3 DL spots because we felt in a deep league it would not be fair to force teams overrun with injuries to live off the FA pool. If we force a purge each offseason, you’re going against the dynasty theme somewhat and reduce the injury mitigation that additional DL slots allow. You’re really just forcing a decision over two players and pretending the DL spot does not exist for a small period of time. So that choice, in and of itself, is not a fair way to approach it either.

I don't see a silver bullet solution to this. Each one has its pros and cons. Let me simply this as I see it in case I'm being unclear:

Carryover DL Option – Allows stashing –especially this year – requires additional administration and oversight – probably the fairest way to handle it for guys that are obviously hurt – is a loophole for guys with ingrown toenails to end the previous season.

Startover DL Option – Would discourage stashing – will punish teams with numerous TJs – reduces the effectiveness of having 3 DL spots by forcing a team to purge healthy guys to accommodate future stash guys – Easiest, most non-biased way to handle the issue with no additional administration required – could be tweeked to bridge the gap between the options somewhat but not completely.

Personally, I’d like to use the carryover option, but I understand the grey area associated with it. I’d like to try to find a marginal version of this before using a purge option. One idea would be to allow DL stashes ONLY for players picked up or owned during the previous season that ended the season on the DL. This would prevent a team from grabbing a player during the offseason just for stash capabilities. We could even push the cutoff back to the trade deadline to prevent teams from going on a DL-palooza at the end of the year in plans of stashing. That way, doing so would greatly impact you team that season. I also do not feel many TJ guys will be dropped in a dynasty format, so the ability to stash said players will not be as prevalent as assumed. If a guy breaks a leg at the end of the year this could apply also. Now, this would require additional administration, but sometimes the correct answer requires a little extra work. Besides, I think we have the admin horsepower to pull it off.

I’m not digging my heels in on either side. I’m just presenting information from my perspective and my shoot from the hip thoughts. I could easily be persuaded either way.

Very well presented. Should we take vote on which option?

I feel like I said the same thing but in 700 less words