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Time to get a new MacBook Pro?

Posted on 12/30/22 at 1:45 pm
Posted by philly444
stuck in contraflow
Member since Nov 2008
11355 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 1:45 pm
I’ve had mine since 2015 and it appears the battery is dying faster and the speakers on it are messed up so the sounds coming from it are all distorted. Is still works fine otherwise. Would you just repair it or get a new one? Is there a chance that it could just crash all together at some point soon?
This post was edited on 12/30/22 at 1:49 pm
Posted by captainpodnuh
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
479 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 4:59 pm to
7-8 years on a MacBook is solid. About 2x what you get on a Windows PC for roughly 50% more investment. I upgrade mine about every 7-8 so you are right in my window. I would upgrade.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6411 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 5:14 pm to
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About 2x what you get on a Windows PC for roughly 50% more investment


What are you basing this inaccurate statement on?
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27354 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 7:33 pm to
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7-8 years on a MacBook is solid. About 2x what you get on a Windows PC for roughly 50% more investment. I upgrade mine about every 7-8 so you are right in my window. I would upgrade.


I have a Fall 2015 MBP and it's a beast. Zero issues. If the OS ever gets stale and unusable I will be giving it a LINUX upload.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15503 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 11:25 pm to
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What are you basing this inaccurate statement on?


PC laptop lifecycle at work is 4 years, it’s pretty accurate and I get decent current year specs. I’m always limping along and can’t wait for an upgrade.
This post was edited on 1/1/23 at 11:26 pm
Posted by captainpodnuh
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
479 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:41 am to
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I have a Fall 2015 MBP and it's a beast. Zero issues. If the OS ever gets stale and unusable I will be giving it a LINUX upload.


Totally depends on your buildout, but OP implied he was starting to see performance degradation. After physical wear and tear from travel and daily use, and historically disk space (no longer an issue w SSD), 7-8 years has always been a solid benchmark for me on Mac, even with ability to continuously upgrade Mac OS.

And 4 years has traditionally been EOL for workplace notebook PCs. We don’t max out resources on workplace PCs like gaming PCs, so lower RAM, disk space and proc generally means a faster turnover. And w Windows, EOL on OS generally means procure a new PC rather than upgrade. Costs are simply too high to push new OS across the fleet on physical PCs.

And now on-prem virtual desktop and movement to DaaS, we are buying zero desktops and fewer notebooks. Thin/Zero clients are so cheap and easy to deploy with super low support costs.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15503 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:54 pm to
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And 4 years has traditionally been EOL for workplace notebook PCs. We don’t max out resources on workplace PCs like gaming PCs, so lower RAM, disk space and proc generally means a faster turnover. And w Windows, EOL on OS generally means procure a new PC rather than upgrade. Costs are simply too high to push new OS across the fleet on physical PCs.

And now on-prem virtual desktop and movement to DaaS, we are buying zero desktops and fewer notebooks. Thin/Zero clients are so cheap and easy to deploy with super low support costs.


Maybe where you work but I get pretty nice specs to run Autocad and other engineering programs. It’s not a top tier gaming pc, but it’s not a crap work laptop either. We get mid tier graphics cards and decent ram to go with it. Still ready for an upgrade at the 4 year mark to keep up with our software.
This post was edited on 1/8/23 at 9:55 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6411 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 1:55 am to
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I’m always limping along


PEBKAC. Problem exists between keyboard and chair. I've ridden Intel and AMD rigs for far longer with out of the box performance, but I am also super careful about Spyware another other BS. I get splendid performance out of an RX580 I bought eight or nine years ago, even on an Intel 4970K build I set up a decade ago, before I switched to an AM4/X570, 5600X about two years ago. Using the same RX580. I do go wildly overboard on RAM when it is cheap, and I knew SSDs were the first thing that needed to be upgraded from HDD.

Your PC lifecycle at work is based on accounting deprecation, and how the leasing model works, not because they go bad over time. If your computers go that bad, that fast, you have an IT administration problem, not a computer problem. I may have finally found the one place that can make a computer run more shittily than my company does the work laptop I use only when forced, and it's where you work.

I've opened IT tickets with "SCREENSHOT ALREADY ATTACHED," whereupon I get asked for a screenshot four days later, EVERY SINGLE F@#*ng TIME I've opened a ticket, so I feel your IT pain. I've only worked at my company since July, and it's by far the worst IT I've ever seen, going back to the 90s and Windows for Workgroups. At least you're not in your mid 40s and are not permitted to change your wallpaper (like me.)
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6411 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 2:10 am to
Why, oh why, are we running CAD programs on a laptop? That just means you pay $3k for a laptop for the capabilities you could exceed in a $1600 desktop. AMD Workstation graphics cards are mostly under $220. If they demand laptops, you can get external graphical processing modules like this.

You may have one or two architects that need more beef than that for rendering, but given how much you pay for AutoCAD licenses, I'm kinda surprised your company is worried about Laptop prices. Seriously, on a 5600x/RX580, I'm normally at 11% CPU usage unless I'm running ESO on max settings and my cat decides to take a nap on top of my water cooling fans.


FFS, I bought an Ultrabook with a discrete GeForce GPU so I could blow time playing SkyRim and Shadow of Mordor while I wasted time in our overseas offices. It was $1000 four years ago, still use it.

Ya gonna do what you gonna do, but it's almost always the shite you do to a computer, not the computer itself. The absolute f@*ckery I've watched my current company do proves this (along with my 30 years in IT). A six month old computer runs like trash, our intranet site doesn't work well, our MFA is broken half the time, etc. That's not the computer, that's the stuff the company has built that the computer is trying to get to. Not Dell, Lenovo, or Apple's fault.

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