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re: Ian Happ or Dee Gordon - Keeper League

Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by RollDatRoll
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:55 pm to
How many days a week is Happ playing with Joe Maddon as his manager?
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:11 pm to
Gordon is so thin and airy and flexible, he just seems durable. But moving to the OF could take more of a toll on him
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:21 pm to
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How many days a week is Happ playing with Joe Maddon as his manager?


considering he can play every OF position as well as 2B, he's playing regularly.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:21 pm to
You are way undervaluing Gordon in a roto league. He could give you 5-10 points in the steals category. I would take the elite player now.
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:21 pm to
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Gordon is so thin and airy and flexible


You forgot "dreamy"

Posted by reddman
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:22 pm to
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You are way undervaluing Gordon in a roto league


No I'm not. I'm questioning his ability to maintain the pace in which he steals bases long term, because its a keeper league. That's all.

Posted by RollDatRoll
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:28 pm to
The only 2 guys playing every day will be Bryant and Rizzo. I'd give Gordon an extra game a week on him. Gordon with 600 at bats. Happ with 500.

It doesn't matter though. In roto, this is a no brainer for Gordon. Much closer if H2H Cats.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:29 pm to
We do not even know how many keepers this is. All we know is the guy's last keeper. Unless he is already keeping Billy Hamilton, or he is two years away from competing (unlikely), then keep Dee Gordon.

Happ has a high strikeout rate (could become problematic), will get way fewer at-bats, and could see the bench too much, especially if this guy plays in a weekly league (which is dumb).

In a vacuum, give me the guy who is elite in two cats.
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:31 pm to
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Gordon with 600 at bats


That old POS will prolly get suspended again.

Posted by RollDatRoll
Who Dat. Roll Tide.
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:38 pm to
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That old POS will prolly get suspended again.



He turns 30 in April, stole 60 last year, and still has super elite feet per second Statcast data. I would guess he is still an elite SB in 2020.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:48 pm to
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quote:

Ellsbury had to stop running bc he was always hurt I reckon



Well shite, players over 30 tend to get hurt more often. Kinda goes with my point.


Ellsbury was consistently hurt even before he hit 30 though.

A guy like Juan Pierre still stole 68 in his age 31 season, then had a couple more productive seasons before falling off.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 2:03 pm to
Vince Coleman stole a bunch past 30

It’s all a bit anecdotal anyway
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 2:05 pm to
Rickey Henderson stole 66 in his age 39 season.

Dude also once stole 130 in a year. That's nuts.
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 2:13 pm to
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Vince Coleman stole a bunch past 30


But Tim Raines really fell off.

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It’s all a bit anecdotal anyway


Indeed.
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