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Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:52 pm
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:52 pm
Jrue is at 32 going into the 4th!!! Let’s go
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:52 pm to
He's stepped up for sure
Posted by Balloon Huffer
Member since Sep 2010
3421 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:38 pm to
honest question -- have we ever won a game with Jrue as the leading scorer?

next question -- what is our winning percentage when Jrue scores over 20 verus under 20. I'm pretty sure when he scores we lose.

PS - Jrue Holiday is not a winner, and is probably on the worst contract in the entire league.

Posted by Vanilla Ice
2018 Saints Talk Poster of the Year
Member since Apr 2013
5455 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:21 pm to
Agreed. Jrue is arse
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:38 pm to
Luol dang says your wrong.. so does mozgov. Go ahead and take a lap.
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16433 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:14 am to
And Asik
Posted by Balloon Huffer
Member since Sep 2010
3421 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 8:39 am to
nice reply, cute and witty.

Now, care to actually answer my questions?
Posted by ElRoos
Member since Nov 2017
7210 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 9:21 am to
quote:

have we ever won a game with Jrue as the leading scorer?


Guarentee the percentage of wins with this scenario is low. Here's what will happen: Jrue will score 20+ in the first half, then we give up the lead and he goes Houdini for the rest of the game.

quote:

what is our winning percentage when Jrue scores over 20 verus under 20. I'm pretty sure when he scores we lose.


I guarantee we win a lot more games when he is under 20 than when he is above 20.

quote:

PS - Jrue Holiday is not a winner, and is probably on the worst contract in the entire league.


He is fricking terrible, and anyone on this board trying to justify that signing to any degree can just shut the frick up. Awful player with an awful basketball IQ.
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 2:23 pm to
let's play your game,
Nov 15 2016 pels won with Jrue holiday as leading scorer v NETS and he scored winning bucket..
Ill give you his AVG pts per Win v pts per loss by season, I don't have the time to go look at every game.
2014/2015 W= 15.4 L= 14.3
2016/2016 W= 17.2 L=16.4
2016/2017 W=17.0 L=13.9
2017/2018 W= 18.1 L=14.5

Jrue holiday has been on a team with a lot of backcourt guys who's games have not complimented each other well, and his contract although LARGE is NOT the worst in the league.
Posted by Balloon Huffer
Member since Sep 2010
3421 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 2:57 pm to
thank you for your efforts, it is appreciated.

You answered part 1 but the averages don't quite answer my 2nd question on his win percentages for over/under 20 pts.


PS was that the only time you found we won with him as the leading scorer?

None the less - my point is this, Jrue is simply not a winner. He does not play winning basketball. He could have great individual numbers or bad individual numbers, but he simply does not make anyone better.

The trade for Jrue was bad enough, resigning him to max?? fricking ridiculous.
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:07 pm to
I mean there are probably more but I hve shite to do today lol. Same with trying to sort out wins v Losses where Jrue scores 20+ points. I’d probably need to write my own code for that, unless someone else here can tell me how to better sort..
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63542 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

I'm pretty sure when he scores we lose.


not at all true.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10404 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 4:45 pm to
I just feel like this team is full of high volume stat padders with no real "winning" impact on the game.
Posted by Scrowe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
2926 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 5:38 am to
Looks like he's 34-28 over his career here in the regular season when he scores 20 or more. Someone else can count the record when he's under 20 on Basketball Reference.
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