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re: Jimbo is the crazy crossroads of completely settling while paying the highest salary
Posted on 11/6/21 at 2:09 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Posted on 11/6/21 at 2:09 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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And his current OC brings a somewhat more modern approach. What about the guy he hires next, or the one after that?
What about Jimbo's OC that hasn't adapted to the modern game for 4-5 years?
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OH wait
spidermanmeme
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He will get four years minimum to make the CFP
WTF why? With that sort of commitment it should be by 2023 minimum. FOUR years just to make the playoffs? To justify his deal we need a title in 4 years.
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Again, if the money is there to can Ed for almost 20 million two years removed from an NC (I actually didn’t think we would), the program will find a way to move on when the new TV deals are pouring much more money in by then.
LSU isn't paying a $50M+ buyout. Just isn't going to happen in our lifetimes. The optics alone are horrible.
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, that you don’t make the hire assuming the worst happens.
I'm not assuming the worst happens. I'm assuming he hits his ceiling of 2-3 losses somewhat regularly.
Worst case is his last year at FSU. I don't think that's likely (at least in the first 4-5 years)
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so let’s hire a worse coach that we can get rid of easier if he sucks.
This isn't 2015 anymore. Jimbo of 2021 isn't Jimbo of 2015 anymore. We don't know if guys like Napier or Aranda are "worse" because Jimbo hasn't exactly been elite at TAMU.
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Otherwise, you’re yearning for the days of Joe Dean.
Bull fricking shite. Not seeking out an irrational contract is not the same as "pinching pennies". We'd still have to pay a legit coach a market salary. Jimbo's demands are WAY above market (in both salary and duration)...unless he hates it so much at TAMU he'll take a 5 year $40M deal at LSU.
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and his focus on the offensive side of the ball,
You posted one of Jimbo's biggest negatives as a strength
This post was edited on 11/6/21 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 11/6/21 at 2:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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WTF why? With that sort of commitment it should be by 2023 minimum. FOUR years just to make the playoffs? To justify his deal we need a title in 4 years.
No one is getting fired if they make the playoffs. Period. It’s easy to say making the playoff isn’t enough but he’ll get four years and if we are in the CFP he isn’t a “failure” where the talk of a buyout is even a talking point.
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LSU isn't paying a $50M+ buyout. Just isn't going to happen in our lifetimes. The optics alone are horrible.
I was in college when Dinardo got fired, and if you’d have told me then we’d be paying 17 million to fire a coach twenty years later I’d have said you were crazy
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I'm not assuming the worst happens. I'm assuming he hits his ceiling of 2-3 losses somewhat regularly.
I disagree that his ceiling is 2-3 losses.
Hell he lost 1 last season.
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This isn't 2015 anymore. Jimbo of 2021 isn't Jimbo of 2015 anymore. We don't know if guys like Napier or Aranda are "worse" because Jimbo hasn't exactly been elite at TAMU.
It isn’t 2005 anymore either.
LSU hiring a HC with 2 or 3 years of experience from UL or Baylor would be a catastrophically underwhelming hire given the stature of this program over the past 20 years.
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Bull fricking shite. Not seeking out an irrational contract is not the same as "pinching pennies"
Dude, what about sports contracts are in any way “rational”???
You just aren’t looking at this through the proper lens, which is Monopoly money man.
I’m not saying it’s the way it should be, but it most certainly is the way it is.
What do you honestly think we pay Napier or Aranda if we hire them?
If you think we’re going to pay much less than we’re paying O right now, I have some bad news for you.
O should have gotten maybe half of what he got in 2017, and certainly shouldn’t have gotten that absurd extension, but the numbers are what they are.
These idiots think the prestige of the position should dictate the value, not the value of the person in the position.
Saying Jimbo at 12/8 doesn’t give us a way out is ignoring the fact these next tier guys are probably getting 7-8/5-6 anyway.
It will still take a substantial buyout if they don’t succeed, so you’re talking about the difference between the two, not just the flat cost of Jimbo’s buyout when weighing the benefit of making the lower cost hire.
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