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re: Jimbo is the crazy crossroads of completely settling while paying the highest salary

Posted on 11/6/21 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 11/6/21 at 1:53 pm to
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Where is this revisionism coming from? Jameis was generational. He was a super elite recruit, Heisman winner, and #1 draft pick (and solid NFL QB).



Terrell Pryor was probably the most “super elite” QB recruit of all time. How did that pay off for OSU?


Winston became a Heisman winner and #1 draft pick due to his work with and under a very good QB developer in Jimbo, and regressed back to the mean at the next level afterwards.

Pretending Jameis could have just strolled onto campus anywhere in the country and did what he did at FSU, apparently dragging Jimbo along in the process, the way Cam Newton did at Auburn just isn’t correct imo.

Winston has proven over and over that he needs exceptional coaching, guidance, and the right system around him to perform at an elite level.

Jimbo gave him all of those things.



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Every QB he’s had since Winston has had 20+ TDs and single digit INTs.


Great stats for 2005



I’m not saying I’d be happy with that production, but you’re questioning his ability as a QB developer.

I think given what he’s had to work with in the second half of his career the QB play has been good enough that I’d still be happy to see what he could do with talent like Nuss, Walker, and potentially Arch.
This post was edited on 11/6/21 at 2:02 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/6/21 at 2:10 pm to
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Terrell Pryor was probably the most “super elite” QB recruit of all time. How did that pay off for OSU?


Winston became a Heisman winner and #1 draft pick due to his work with and under a very good QB developer in Jimbo, and regressed back to the mean at the next level afterwards.

Pretending Jameis could have just strolled onto campus anywhere in the country and did what he did at FSU, apparently dragging Jimbo along in the process, the way Cam Newton did at Auburn just isn’t correct imo.

Winston has proven over and over that he needs exceptional coaching, guidance, and the right system around him to perform at an elite level.

Jimbo gave him all of those things.

If Jimbo is such a great QB developer, why has he had shite at QB post-Jameis? This is a significant sample size (7 years) to judge his current status.
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