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re: If people start having serious long term side effects from the vaccine

Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:53 pm to
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Still, the point I was making is that this vaccine is still recommended by the CDC for all children under 2 and I have never heard mention of any long term link to diabetes.


Because follow-up studies didn't show any clear association, I believe. One was done in 2011, if I recall, and one in 2004 that appeared in NEJM.

There's risks to any treatment protocol, but people are awfully sure of autoimmune squealae of vaccination despite not understanding that each has a distinct pathophysiology. Without direct links between the cause and effect in distinctly molecular and physiological terms, I'm skeptical of any major links between vaccination and autoimmune disorders such that vaccination itself would lead to an increase in rates of AI disorders at higher than expected proportions.
Posted by idsrdum
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:07 pm to
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Without direct links between the cause and effect in distinctly molecular and physiological terms, I'm skeptical of any major links between vaccination and autoimmune disorders


It's always interesting to hear your insights and explanations.

Wondering if you believe there are ever times where research is not funded to answer a question for which there is no desire to learn the answer? I remember reading a published piece about SV-40 and a cancer connection from polio vaccine contamination in which the author stated that more research was needed but funding was lacking because it was controversial.

Would also love to know your thoughts on Geert Vanden Bossche and his theories on mass vaccinations.

Posted by OGM
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Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:50 pm to
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There's risks to any treatment protocol, but people are awfully sure of autoimmune squealae of vaccination despite not understanding that each has a distinct pathophysiology. Without direct links between the cause and effect in distinctly molecular and physiological terms, I'm skeptical of any major links between vaccination and autoimmune disorders such that vaccination itself would lead to an increase in rates of AI disorders at higher than expected proportions.


I understand being skeptical of any links not clearly identified, but how could you not also be skeptical of there being no possibility of vaccination triggering this type of immune response?

Science cannot yet explain the causes of autoimmune and neurological disease in distinctly molecular and physiological terms nor can they be directly tested for. It has been proven that there is a link between the 2009 Pandemrix vaccine and Narcolepsy, but they can't exactly identify why. So how can you be so certain that something similar could not possibly be happening with covid vaccines?

Mechanisms of vaccine-associated narcolepsy
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