re: Fully vaccinated people are 10x less likely to be hospitalized and/or die from the Covid.

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Tell us this however, how likely are vaccinated to spread the virus vs unvaccinated?

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Quite a bit less. But this is why these discussions are dumb. We immediately conflate different issues.

You can promote vaccination and be against mandates. You don't have to be against mandates and claim the vaccines don't work. They aren't married at the hip.