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re: Calm Down Liberals - No one is coming for your abortions

Posted on 9/7/21 at 9:52 am to
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 9:52 am to
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Perhaps you should read what Jesus said and taught and compare that to what goes on in your typical forced chattel slavery arrangement and see if those two things are compatible. Slavery within the context of the NT writers wasn’t exactly the same thing as what we find in the blockbuster movies about American slavery.


I'm ok with saying all slavery is wrong. Why wasn't Jesus? We can argue nuance and say well sure Jesus was all about treating slaves better..... It sure seems like he would have preached against the entire construct if he didn't want slavery. He had no problem preaching against and even physically lashing out at established practices he found immoral.
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:02 am to
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I'm ok with saying all slavery is wrong.
First, what standard are you using to say that all slavery is [objectively] wrong?

Second, not all slavery is [objectively] wrong. The slavery most commonly practiced in Israel in the Bible was not chattel slavery that we think about today. It was more like indentured servitude, used to pay off debts or to provide for the needs of the impoverished who would voluntarily offer themselves as slaves to be cared for by their masters. The slaves had rights, as well.

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Why wasn't Jesus? We can argue nuance and say well sure Jesus was all about treating slaves better..... It sure seems like he would have preached against the entire construct if he didn't want slavery. He had no problem preaching against and even physically lashing out at established practices he found immoral.
Because of the type of slavery that was commonly practiced in Israel at that time. We all have to be careful about projecting our own understanding on to cultures throughout history because they didn't have the same context as we do.

Like I said, the slavery that Jesus and the NT writers were in contact with wasn't the same kind of slavery that we're most familiar with. It had its purposes and benefits to society, including the slaves at the time, and it wasn't something to condemn as outright immoral for that reason.
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:05 am to
Now do islam and mohammed.....go ahead....
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