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re: Why are people so fat now compared to just 30 years ago?
Posted on 9/1/21 at 10:28 pm to Rust Cohle
Posted on 9/1/21 at 10:28 pm to Rust Cohle
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Ok, so it’s the food? Food is an inanimate object that we are blaming
Again, the biochemical processing of 'food' is not simply thermodynamic. It involves hormonal control as well, with exceedingly complex interactions that I could go over. The nutritional profile of food matters, regardless of whether you want to blame an 'inanimate' object.
If there was any other disease with the same demographic profile illustrated as in the OP, we absolutely would not resort to frankly idiotic defenses of 'individualism' that we do in regards to food. Nearly 70% of Americans are overweight, and 33% are obese, which seems to suggest questions of individual choice are much less important than the nutritional content of the food itself. At those population levels, suggesting people are continually making poor decisions without a distinct physiological cause that is directly modulated by exogenous metabolites would be insane for literally any other disease category. The sheer hesitancy of actually treating obesity as a pathology is why we are in this position.
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Why are people eating these foods?
Because these foods can modulate physiologic elements so that there is limited satiation, absent effects of leptin, no insulin response in terms of fructose, and no rate-limiting step of fructose metabolism until it either enters glycolysis or becomes pyruvate, at which point it can enter several possible metabolic pathways, depending on macromolecular and micromolecular needs.
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 9/2/21 at 2:40 am to crazy4lsu
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Again, the biochemical processing of 'food' is not simply thermodynamic. It involves hormonal control as well, with exceedingly complex interactions that I could go over. The nutritional profile of food matters, regardless of whether you want to blame an 'inanimate' object.
If there was any other disease with the same demographic profile illustrated as in the OP, we absolutely would not resort to frankly idiotic defenses of 'individualism' that we do in regards to food. Nearly 70% of Americans are overweight, and 33% are obese, which seems to suggest questions of individual choice are much less important than the nutritional content of the food itself. At those population levels, suggesting people are continually making poor decisions without a distinct physiological cause that is directly modulated by exogenous metabolites would be insane for literally any other disease category. The sheer hesitancy of actually treating obesity as a pathology is why we are in this position.
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Why are people eating these foods?
Because these foods can modulate physiologic elements so that there is limited satiation, absent effects of leptin, no insulin response in terms of fructose, and no rate-limiting step of fructose metabolism until it either enters glycolysis or becomes pyruvate, at which point it can enter several possible metabolic pathways, depending on macromolecular and micromolecular needs.
JFC
Words words words
laaaayyy
Zeeeeee,
fricks.
Period
Listen to me……. Getting in “shape” is 1% physical, 99% mental. Our society is made up of mental midgets. Soooooo, society is fat because it’s easier than being not fat. It’s as simple as that. I spent 20 years trying to right that ship. Ain’t gon happen
Posted on 9/2/21 at 7:27 am to crazy4lsu
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At those population levels, suggesting people are continually making poor decisions
I don’t think people are lazy, or have free will in the sense that we believe. We stand here today as a collection of our past experiences. if I was someone else then I would do the same thing they would do. That’s my thought, that the outer and inner influences effect our behavior before we eat, (cultural, familiar, personal history, genetic, epiginetic) but I’m sure food can contribute to the cyclical nature of decision making. I just think the cultural influence are just a strong as the influence of addictive foods. And blaming the obesity epidemic on seed oils, or carbs is shortsighted.
I know that stress and trauma can cause acute disease. So for sure it contribute to chronic disease.
I have personally seen stress cause heart attacks with Takatsubo.
This post was edited on 9/2/21 at 7:40 am
Posted on 9/2/21 at 7:48 am to crazy4lsu
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Again, the biochemical processing of 'food' is not simply thermodynamic. It involves hormonal control as well, with exceedingly complex interactions that I could go over. The nutritional profile of food matters, regardless of whether you want to blame an 'inanimate' object.
If there was any other disease with the same demographic profile illustrated as in the OP, we absolutely would not resort to frankly idiotic defenses of 'individualism' that we do in regards to food. Nearly 70% of Americans are overweight, and 33% are obese, which seems to suggest questions of individual choice are much less important than the nutritional content of the food itself. At those population levels, suggesting people are continually making poor decisions without a distinct physiological cause that is directly modulated by exogenous metabolites would be insane for literally any other disease category. The sheer hesitancy of actually treating obesity as a pathology is why we are in this position.
yet every frickign time we do a study and equalize calories and protein across mutiple diffrent macronutrient diets..... we find the only thing that matters is those two on rate of body fat loss.
all the idiots saying carbs make you fat....well they cant produce one study that shows that bodyfat is burned at a higher rate once calories and protein are accounted for and equalized.
i say that as someone who enjoys low carb and eats that away most of the time.
oh same goes for intermittent fasting.
both of those lies have been repeated so much people take them as truth. its kind of like the old lie that metabolism slows greatly as you age and thats why people get fat. come to find out....thats not the case, we just move around a lot less.
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