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re: Cm punk is back on AEW

Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:12 am to
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:12 am to
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At least WWE has a women's division


Do they? Seems Charlotte is the only one that matters. Bayley was the real MVP of the division during the pandemic. But they make Rhea, Asuka, Bazler look like chumps, Alexa is just nonsensical.

It was certainly a problem early on but AEW’s women are vastly improved from the beginning. Britt Baker and Thunder Rosa are stars that we’ll be seeing for the next 5+ years as often as the Horsewomen the past 5. Shida, Conti, Deeb, Riho, Jade all have tons of potential. Ruby maybe coming soon. I’ll give you they need to do a better job presenting the ladies more and better in the undercard.

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Both of them appeal to the anti-WWE mark and that crowd already watches AEW.


Ok that’s great, but you’re underselling them. Literally the loudest reactions aside from maybe Cena since the Austin/Rock days. Listen to their pops in 2011-2013, WM30 in New Orleans (I was there, Bryan was THE most over person in the building) or just last night. Look around Reddit or social media to see how many people mention it was those two specifically that brought them back in the early 2010s. Current WWE fans have clamored for more of them for years now, they’ll tune in just to see them. Punk’s name is known outside of wrestling circles too.

I’m not saying they’ll start routinely beating the ratings of WWE (not that it much matters today) but they are going to move the needle no doubt.

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their main problem is they are growing too fast. Their whole appeal that draws wrestlers to join their brand is "We will use and book you better than you would be in WWE and you will have more creative freedom" The thing is this is what ultimately doomed WCW. Everyone was promised the same thing, creative freedom, will be used better.


AEW is not WCW, and all reports so far have been about how positive the vibe is in the locker room. Those selfish toxic personalities of the 90s aren’t there, bc vets like Jericho, Sting, SCU, etc. actually want to help the young guys instead of hindering them. It’s not at all the same. Tony Khan does need to do better at shooting some ideas down, but he’s learning for sure. At least they seem to work as a team, and not just to appease one person.

To Khan’s credit they actually rotate people and do a great job not having everyone appear every week. Rematches are usually spaced pretty far apart (Omega/Christian notwithstanding) if they happen at all. Look how many different people have main evented Dynamite this year alone. Meanwhile WWE “doesn’t have anything” for some of their best performers and run back the same matches every week, while having champions lose days before a title defense so only the same few people feel of any value. This is not a new problem, it’s been the same for years now.
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 10:13 am
Posted by HeLeakin
Member since May 2014
3356 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:21 am to
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Punk’s name is known outside of wrestling circles too.


But not for a good reason. If you're not a wrestling fan, Punk is just the guy going back to fake fighting after being humiliated at real fighting.

This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 10:24 am
Posted by lsunatchamp
Member since Feb 2009
2025 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:22 am to
AEW is doing better than people thought they were going to be doing at this point..probably WAY better, so there's that. The biggest flaw I see right now is the flippy shite gets too out of hand sometimes, to the point to where it looks like the guys are working together instead of having an actual fight. Believability is something that would attract more of a mainstream audience, and right now, especially in the tag matches, believability is pretty low
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 10:24 am
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:26 am to
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Do they? Seems Charlotte is the only one that matters. Bayley was the real MVP of the division during the pandemic. But they make Rhea, Asuka, Bazler look like chumps, Alexa is just nonsensical.


Asuka was money last spring/summer. Baszler is like 40, she has no superstar potential. Rhea is Charlotte goth-style. Alexa has been money. Letting go of Bray has allowed to move forward with her. He had opportunity after opportunity to get into shape and he could never do it.
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