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re: There's a recent new study on the use of Ivermectin for Covid
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:03 am to meansonny
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:03 am to meansonny
quote:No it didn't.
The cruise ship told us that the virus lasted 2+ weeks on surfaces.
quote:No it didn't.
The cruise ship also had a 2% fatality rate
You're the one remembering it wrong. Here's a nature.com article explaining it from March 26, 2020: LINK
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Using the Diamond Princess data, a team reports in Eurosurveillance1 that by 20 February, 18% of all infected people on the ship had no symptoms. “That is a substantial number,” says co-author Gerardo Chowell, a mathematical epidemiologist at Georgia State University in Atlanta. But the passengers included a large number of elderly people, who are most likely to develop severe disease if infected, so the share of asymptomatic people in the general population is likely to be higher, he says.
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Another team used data from the ship to estimate2 that the proportion of deaths among confirmed cases in China, the case fatality rate (CFR), was around 1.1% — much lower than the 3.8% estimated by the World Health Organization (WHO).
The WHO simply divided China’s total number of deaths by the total number of confirmed infections, says Timothy Russell, a mathematical epidemiologist at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. That method does not take into account that only a fraction of infected people are actually tested, and so it makes the disease seem more deadly than it is, he says.
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The group also estimates that the infection fatality rate (IFR) in China — the proportion of all infections, including asymptomatic ones, that result in death — is even lower, at roughly 0.5%.
quote:The "cluster" you are describing was a result of the fear porn coming from europe and propogated by the media.
Ioannidis adds that the studies using Diamond Princess data could benefit from the addition of the medical histories of those on board, such as whether or not people smoked. “We know that not only age, but also presence of medical diseases such as chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, heart disease, diabetes and other conditions increase the risk of a bad outcome,” he says.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 11:07 am
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:11 am to ell_13
The UN currently reports 13 deaths on the diamond princess out of 712 infections. The infections were not an immediate spike. They continued to test positive during the ships quarantine.
And yes... the thought from both the diamond princess and the immediate spike in NY (subways) was that indoor surfaces maintained active/contageous viral load for up to 2 weeks.
Weve learned a ton in the immediate 2 months after the diamond princess. The cluster is like what happened after 9/11 (reports of attacks in places where attacks didnt happen). Reports were of people dropping dead walking the streets of europe and south america. The idea that the virus could survive surfaces. Stupid predictions like Cambridge which predicted something ridiculous like 2M deaths in the first 6 months.
And yes... the thought from both the diamond princess and the immediate spike in NY (subways) was that indoor surfaces maintained active/contageous viral load for up to 2 weeks.
Weve learned a ton in the immediate 2 months after the diamond princess. The cluster is like what happened after 9/11 (reports of attacks in places where attacks didnt happen). Reports were of people dropping dead walking the streets of europe and south america. The idea that the virus could survive surfaces. Stupid predictions like Cambridge which predicted something ridiculous like 2M deaths in the first 6 months.
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