- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Question about vaccine?
Posted on 8/7/21 at 4:49 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 8/7/21 at 4:49 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
It is absolutely FALSE.
Link the CDC's comment in that regard.
From the CDC website, guidance for fully vaccinated people:
quote:
To maximize protection from the Delta variant and prevent possibly spreading it to others, wear a mask indoors in public if you are in an area of substantial or high transmission.
So is it still FALSE in all caps, or do you have more qualifiers?
2
Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:36 pm to Flats
quote:You aren't that dense!
From the CDC website, guidance for fully vaccinated people:
The statement you are looking for is:
"They admit that getting the vaccine doesn’t stop one from getting or spreading the virus, rather it just reduces symptoms."
If you don't have it (AND YOU DON'T) and cannot link it, own it and move on.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:38 pm to Flats
The biggest problem at all of this is the unequivocal declarative statements being made that people then use to ‘disprove’ the opposite idea.
In the beginning, the vaccines were felt to be approximately 95% effective. Does that mean it STOPS Covid? Well, an accurate statement would say it was highly effective, or greatly reduces, or whatever. But they, for effect, make an absolute statement. That then gives opponents ‘ammunition’ to ‘disprove’ the statement, as you are doing.
So yes. You are correct. It does not STOP Covid. There are failures.
That does not mean it is ineffective. That is an equivalent exaggerated absolute in the other direction.
So, we have a vaccine that is pretty effective, greatly reduces spread while not eliminating it. It is true that people infected with breakthrough infections can spread the virus. It even seems to be true that some people can carry high viral loads without having symptoms, and may be able to transmit that as well. But none of those statements are the same as saying it is useless or it doesn’t work.
It’s not an absolute. Just like pretty much any medical treatment is not an absolute.
So far, it seems that vaccinated populations get sick less than unvaccinated. That’s really the main reason why you see some vaccination proponents trying to push it on other people. Evidence suggests that if more people have the vac, there will be less total infections and less total viral replication in that community. Less total infections will equal less variants ( variants come through replication errors) and less of all this crap we are all having to go through.
In the end, everyone needs to do what they are comfortable with and accept the result. That result goes beyond just oneself, however.
But everyone, on both sides, also needs to quit playing gotcha games. It just adds to all the misinformation noise. Correcting an absolute statement that is TECHNICALLY wrong because it’s not absolutely true, with another absolute, makes little sense and contributes nothing
In the beginning, the vaccines were felt to be approximately 95% effective. Does that mean it STOPS Covid? Well, an accurate statement would say it was highly effective, or greatly reduces, or whatever. But they, for effect, make an absolute statement. That then gives opponents ‘ammunition’ to ‘disprove’ the statement, as you are doing.
So yes. You are correct. It does not STOP Covid. There are failures.
That does not mean it is ineffective. That is an equivalent exaggerated absolute in the other direction.
So, we have a vaccine that is pretty effective, greatly reduces spread while not eliminating it. It is true that people infected with breakthrough infections can spread the virus. It even seems to be true that some people can carry high viral loads without having symptoms, and may be able to transmit that as well. But none of those statements are the same as saying it is useless or it doesn’t work.
It’s not an absolute. Just like pretty much any medical treatment is not an absolute.
So far, it seems that vaccinated populations get sick less than unvaccinated. That’s really the main reason why you see some vaccination proponents trying to push it on other people. Evidence suggests that if more people have the vac, there will be less total infections and less total viral replication in that community. Less total infections will equal less variants ( variants come through replication errors) and less of all this crap we are all having to go through.
In the end, everyone needs to do what they are comfortable with and accept the result. That result goes beyond just oneself, however.
But everyone, on both sides, also needs to quit playing gotcha games. It just adds to all the misinformation noise. Correcting an absolute statement that is TECHNICALLY wrong because it’s not absolutely true, with another absolute, makes little sense and contributes nothing
Page 1 of 1
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News