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re: Manhattan DA charges Trump's company, CFO with tax fraud
Posted on 7/3/21 at 8:28 pm to David_DJS
Posted on 7/3/21 at 8:28 pm to David_DJS
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The vast majority of those imprisoned for possession are either repeat offenders or pled more serious charges down. It’s actually pretty rare for a first time possession offender to get appreciable sentences. And sentences for possession alone are pretty rare, too - in 2017, for example, only 92 of 20,000 federal drug-related sentences were for possession. And that’s not to mention the defendants history.
I suppose if you had a bunch qualifiers that I didn't write (first time offender, federal) you can have it come out however you like....
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Don’t play obtuse. You know what was meant by “political” - it has been mentioned in this thread a dozen times what is meant.
Don't play obtuse. You know that I'm challenging your very limited definition of political.
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You’re ignoring the point so let’s get right to it -
Are you troubled by the emerging dual justice system, one for conservatives and one for liberals?
Didn't mean to ignore this. Let me direct. This is nonsense and not a thing that exists in the real world. On the other hand, there has been a clear difference int the justice system to which poor people are subject, irrespective of party and the one available to rich people, irrespective of party. Longtime tax cheat, Wiesselberg has long been the beneficiary of this phenomenon. But you have total indifference to this bifurcated justice model except when it impact Trump cronies. It what it is.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 8:54 pm to longwayfromLA
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I suppose if you had a bunch qualifiers that I didn't write (first time offender, federal) you can have it come out however you like....
This is what you wrote - "How many thousands of men are in jails right now because they lived in stop and frisk neighborhoods and got caught with a dime bag?"
You're now arguing that the point you made here was about repeat offenders, guys involved in distribution, some with violent crimes in their history?
Really? Because the way you came across was that you were implying there were big time thousands of guys in prison that did nothing but get caught with pot in stop/frisk neighborhoods.
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Didn't mean to ignore this. Let me direct. This is nonsense and not a thing that exists in the real world.
You believe all violent protesters, everybody that ever lies while testifying before congress, everybody that fails to register as a foreign agent - they're all being treated the exact same way by our justice system?
I think you know better.
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On the other hand, there has been a clear difference int the justice system to which poor people are subject, irrespective of party and the one available to rich people
Who is arguing this isn't true? I don't think a single person in this thread has argued this isn't true.
The justice system can be tilted in favor or rich people and the Left at the same time, you know this is possible, right?
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Longtime tax cheat, Wiesselberg has long been the beneficiary of this phenomenon. But you have total indifference to this bifurcated justice model except when it impact Trump cronies. It what it is.
And now you're being disingenuous. It wasn't more than a post or two ago that I clearly said that I could give a shite about this Wiesselberg character, and if he cheated on his taxes he deserves to get the fines/penalties he's going to get. That doesn't change the fact that Cyrus Vance Jr, a dyed in the wool Dem, didn't turn a simple tax matter into a ridiculous political dog & pony show. You even mentioned that loads of libs are excited by this "pelt" or however you termed it.
Now tell me how disappointed you are with how Hunter Biden, a rich white dude, son of the president no less - has apparently skated on everything from kidding porn to gun violations to financial corruption. Do you honestly believe that if there was all the evidence of that shite on Donald Trump Jr's laptop that he'd be scot free, teaching at Tulane and selling art to rich liberals?
This post was edited on 7/3/21 at 9:00 pm
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